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Cohabitation popular with college students
The Digital Collegian (Penn State) ^ | Thursday, January 23, 2003 | Camille Lamb

Posted on 01/23/2003 9:54:51 AM PST by Willie Green

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Couples who decide to live together before getting married are now more commonplace than those who choose to marry before sharing a residence, said Dorian Solot, co-author of the book Unmarried to Each Other: The Essential Guide to Living Together as an Unmarried Couple.

The book, co-written by Solot's partner Marshall Miller, explores the issues surrounding cohabiting couples and alternative families. According to Solot and Miller's statistics, two in every five college-age people cohabit.

Jessica Dobrowolski (senior-geographic information science) is among those who gave cohabitation a try.

"It causes a lot of added stress that you don't anticipate," Dobrowolski said. "I lived with just [my boyfriend] in the apartment ... I think the stress is lessened if you have other roommates and your boyfriend happens to be one of those other people."

She named cohabiting as a reason the relationship did not last.

"I am going to be very cautious before moving in with anyone else I am in a relationship with," she said.

Solot said Dobrowolski had learned an important lesson in cohabitation -- it is a decision to be made carefully.

"Also, for many students it works out really well to live with a significant other and other roommates, especially if each person has his or her own bedroom," Solot said. "Then you're sharing more time than you would have been, but each still has a private space to retreat to."

Bryan Koval (senior-secondary education) has been dating his long-distance girlfriend for 11 months. He said he thinks cohabiting could be a positive experience.

"This sounds cheesy, but she is my best friend. Before anything romantic, she's somebody I like hanging out with and being around," he said. "The fact that she's someone I feel very strongly about would be an added perk."

Couples thinking about upping their commitment level by cohabiting have a few things to talk about, Solot said.

"It sounds like Bryan and his girlfriend have a serious relationship and are thinking about moving toward a higher level of commitment," Solot said. "As a next step, they should consider what their attitudes toward marriage are, and if that's the direction they want to go, talk about a specific time frame."

Brooke Everett (senior-anthropology) said she has been with her boyfriend for about two years, but would not consider moving in together yet.

"Personally, I wouldn't do it at this point in my life, but I think it's important to do it before you're married," Everett said. "You can love a person to death, but if they drive you nuts to live with, it's not going to work."

Michael Kerns (junior-music performance) went through a divorce in his early twenties. In light of his first experience, he chose to move in with his present fiancée before deciding to marry again.

"You know, honestly, I do think it was beneficial [to cohabit] because ... there are a lot of things I wish I'd known about my first wife before we got married," he said. "I think I would have acted differently."

Kerns said he felt he made better choices as a result of learning from the past.

"Because [my fiancée and I] had both been married before, we'd learned a lot about ourselves and knew the kind of qualities we were looking for in a person," he said.

Solot said her best advice for couples considering cohabitation is to talk about it.

"So many couples make assumptions. If one thinks they're just going to save money on rent by moving in together and see how it goes and the other thinks they're practically engaged, they're going to have problems," Solot said. "But my partner and I lived together as college students and 10 years later, we're still committed, together and happy. There's a lot of cause for hope."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: marriage; shackingup
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To: Willie Green
Sometimes I wonder if the pendulum is really swinging back toward social conservatism. On one hand, young people today say they place a greater value on marriage and family life than their peers did in the recent past. But their behavior reflects the pernicious effects of the Sexual Revolution that did so much to undermine our familes and make life harder for our children.

The values that lead people to say it's OK to shack up--and to "move on" when the shacking gets tough--don't just disappear when marriage vows are uttered. In my own 25 years of college teaching, I noticed that most of my own students chose cohabitation over marriage, and few of the marriages they eventually did enter have endured. The victims tend to be small and helpless. The trend is getting worse; look how many people here defend it.

41 posted on 01/23/2003 8:20:42 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98
"The trend is getting worse; look how many people here defend it."

Absolutely. I've always been amazed at the number of people, here on a conservative forum, that are shacked-up.

42 posted on 01/23/2003 8:37:49 PM PST by Artist
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To: Artist
I've always been amazed at the number of people, here on a conservative forum, that are shacked-up.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, "shacked-up" needs to be defined a bit closer. If you're talking about meeting someone and immediately moving into their place, then I agree. If you're talking about moving together after engagement, I think that's a different story.

Incidentally, there's more to conservatism than the social aspect. Many folks here are primarily fiscal conservatives...

43 posted on 01/24/2003 5:17:02 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
Many folks here are primarily fiscal conservatives...

Agreed. Fiscal conservatism is smart idea, IMO, but I want to enjoy my life too much to buy into social conservatism. Social conservatives always seem perpetually angry for some reason or another (again, IMO).

My wife and I dated for six months, moved in with each other for 4 years, and then got married. That was five years ago, and we're completely happy. We both decided that we didn't want to make the same mistakes our parents did (who both got divorced) and so we see our marriage as a permanent arrangement. Sure, sometimes things get tough, but the good parts far outweigh the bad.

44 posted on 01/24/2003 5:33:51 AM PST by Sirloin
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To: weikel
"It should be noted that women file about 90% of the divorces in this country"


Damn...I make into the top 10% of something nationwide, and its nothing I can brag about......sheesh.
45 posted on 01/24/2003 5:40:13 AM PST by Rebelbase (Rock with Celtic roots at http://www.sevennations.com)
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To: Willie Green
Here are some more news flashes:

Thirsty men like beer!

Hungry people want food!

The Clintons are evil!

46 posted on 01/24/2003 5:44:26 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Willie Green
Of course, things DO get a little awkward when one tries to bring a date back to the apartment.

Not if you're lucky.

47 posted on 01/24/2003 5:47:59 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Artist
Absolutely. I've always been amazed at the number of people, here on a conservative forum, that are shacked-up.

I'm always shocked at the number of people who think they are conservatives,and that it has anything to do with sex or other lifestyle issues. It is a political stance that has to do with limiting the power of government and maximizing the freedom of the individual citizen.

48 posted on 01/24/2003 6:10:25 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Sirloin
Social conservatives always seem perpetually angry for some reason or another (again, IMO).

That's because they have the sneakying suspiscion that somebody,somewhere is having a good time and getting laid.

49 posted on 01/24/2003 6:12:48 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: NittanyLion
"If you're talking about moving together after engagement, I think that's a different story."

I don't, unless the couple isn't having sex. Sex before marriage is the real issue here, and it's clear that most people on this thread think that that's no big deal. I disagree.

50 posted on 01/24/2003 6:17:14 AM PST by Artist
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To: TheFilter
I think it's all about the divorce culture we've become. Whoever is the breadwinner knows half their money is at stake should the marriage not work out. However co-habitating brings along it's own issues as well like lack of committment on oneside of the relationship while playing house.
51 posted on 01/24/2003 6:18:16 AM PST by paltz
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To: maxwell
Reminds me of an AC/DC song "Dirty deeds done dirt cheap".
52 posted on 01/24/2003 6:23:10 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Artist
I don't, unless the couple isn't having sex. Sex before marriage is the real issue here, and it's clear that most people on this thread think that that's no big deal. I disagree.

Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Regards.

53 posted on 01/24/2003 6:53:13 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: sneakypete
It is a political stance that has to do with limiting the power of government and maximizing the freedom of the individual citizen.

Well said.

54 posted on 01/24/2003 7:05:59 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
Thanks for being so civil NittanyLion. I usually get all sorts of stuff hurled my way in a discussion like this.

This has been a nice change of pace.

Regards,

55 posted on 01/24/2003 7:06:14 AM PST by Artist
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To: Artist
My pleasure, and thank YOU for civility as well. I understand completely why you feel the way you do, and I suspect we both have similar values (with a few differences, perhaps).
56 posted on 01/24/2003 7:11:39 AM PST by NittanyLion
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