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Bishop challenges Davis on abortion
WND ^ | January 23, 2003 | Unknown

Posted on 01/23/2003 9:52:18 AM PST by gubamyster

'Oppose it or stop taking Holy Communion,' governor told

Posted: January 23, 2003 12:15 p.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Sacramento Bishop William K. Weigand, leader of 500,000 Catholics in Northern California, challenged Gov. Gray Davis yesterday to prove he's not a hypocrite on the issue of abortion.

The Sacramento Bee reports Weigand called on the governor to either renounce his support of abortion rights or stop taking Holy Communion, one of the most sacred rites in the Catholic faith.

Weigand threw down the gauntlet before congregants assembled for morning Mass on the 30th anniversary of the landmark U.S. Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision that amounted to the legalization of abortion.

"As your bishop, I have to say clearly that anyone – politician or otherwise – who thinks it is acceptable for a Catholic to be pro-abortion is in very great error, puts his or her soul at risk, and is not in good standing with the church," Weigand said. "Such a person should have the integrity to acknowledge this and choose of his own volition to abstain from receiving Holy Communion until he has a change of heart."

The Bee reports the governor is an active Catholic who attends Mass in Southern California with his wife, Sharon. The Davises were originally married in a civil ceremony but got remarried in the Catholic Church for their 15th wedding anniversary. The ceremony allowed Davis to resume taking communion.

Weigand praised Monsignor Edward Kavanagh, during the Mass. Last month Kavanagh refused to allow Davis to deliver gifts to St. Patrick's Orphanage unless he renounce his abortion-rights views.

"I'm unapologetically pro-choice and I'm not changing my position," the governor responded, according to The Bee.

"Ever since the little incident last month, people have been asking questions," Weigand told congregants in reference to the Kavanagh showdown. "They asked "how can a Catholic be in good standing and still hold that point of view? I'm saying you can't be a Catholic in good standing and hold that point of view. The governor's position is very public and contrary. ... You can't have it both ways," he said.

The bishop was also taking a cue from the pope. Last week, the Vatican released a new set of guidelines approved by Pope John Paul II for Catholic politicians. The document said that church opposition to abortion, euthanasia and same-sex marriage was not up for negotiation. It urged lawmakers, when voting on legislation, to stay in line with the church's "nonnegotiable ethical principles."

The pope reaffirmed to Roman Catholic politicians that when they take positions opposing "the basic right to life from conception to natural death" they are outside the doctrine of faith.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the doctrine lacks enforcement; politicians who take heretical positions aren't penalized and, more often, are supported by Catholic leaders.

Specifically, the Catholic vote is viewed to have helped incumbent Davis eek out a win over his Catholic, pro-life opponent Bill Simon in last year's election.

One pro-life group seeks to hold Catholic politicians' feet to the fire. As WorldNetDaily reported, as part of its Crusade to Defend Our Catholic Church, the American Life League launched a new campaign yesterday to put pressure on what it calls "The Deadly Dozen" – 12 U.S. senators who are both Catholic and support legalized abortion. Among the 12 are Sens. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and John Kerry, D-Mass., a Democratic candidate for president. In a statement, the organization said the dozen senators are "claiming to be faithful Catholics."

"For 2,000 years, the Catholic Church has steadfastly defended the sanctity of all human life," said American Life League president Judie Brown. "The simple fact is you cannot actively support abortion and be a faithful Catholic. You can't have it both ways. The Church's teachings on this matter are very clear."

The Associated Press reports that Kerry has rejected the Vatican's new guidelines.

Governor Davis is reportedly not backing down either. Spokesman Russ Lopez deflected the challenge from the bishop and criticized Weigand for "telling the faithful how to practice their faith." He then predicted Weigand's comments would alienate California Catholics.

"There are a lot of Catholics who are pro-choice. Does the bishop want all Catholics to stop receiving Holy Communion?" he asked. "Who's going to be left in church?"

Lopez also told The Bee the governor was proud of the legislation he signed giving women the right to choose. Other legislation touted include measures that require HMOs to cover Food and Drug Administration-approved contraception and that crack down on violent protesters at abortion clinics.

Davis' office issued a press release yesterday boasting that California was "the most pro-choice state in America."

The governor also marked the anniversary by issuing a proclamation at a Planned Parenthood event in Los Angeles.

"During my entire career in public service, I've supported a woman's reproductive freedom. When it comes to a woman's right to choose, as long as I'm governor, California will not concede one inch," he declared.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; catholiclist; graydavis
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To: gubamyster
Way to go Bishop !!! We need a LOT MORE of those kind of Catholic Priests and Bishops. Thank God for the POPE.
101 posted on 01/23/2003 4:21:14 PM PST by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: anoldafvet
It's not the matter that the divorce happened....it's when they RE-MARRY that they are in mortal sin...adultery.....UNLESS there is an annullment.
102 posted on 01/23/2003 4:36:09 PM PST by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: Claire Voyant
Abortion...The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.
103 posted on 01/23/2003 4:45:56 PM PST by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: gubamyster; Aquinasfan; ElkGroveDan; Romulus; NYer; Catholicguy; Maximilian; eastsider

Governor Davis should be impeached for allowing his foolish spokesthing to infringe on the 1st Amendment in his name.

104 posted on 01/23/2003 4:50:47 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Longshanks

Excellent post.

105 posted on 01/23/2003 4:54:37 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: hobbes1
If you receive Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin, you are condemned -- each and every time you receive.

Promoting,passing laws to support child killing, and even bragging about the murder of little children cerainly would qualify.

106 posted on 01/23/2003 5:09:04 PM PST by victim soul
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To: anniegetyourgun
What a great quote. Oh how the truth is so very bittersweet at times!
107 posted on 01/23/2003 5:50:18 PM PST by Notwithstanding (America: Home of Abortion on Demand - 42,000,000 Slaughtered)
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To: wideawake
Thanks for the ping. The governor (and his mouthpiece) are really channeling the evil one, aren't they? Beginning with "non serviam" and ending with the lie that Catholic souls belong to him and not the Church. Truly an unmasking.
108 posted on 01/23/2003 9:11:14 PM PST by Romulus
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To: GatorGirl; tiki; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
Ping.
109 posted on 01/23/2003 9:24:35 PM PST by narses
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To: narses
My reaction is mixed.

On the positive side, Bishop Weigand's public pronouncement is very good for being made, for being made strongly, and for being picked up in the press. I hope it is followed through, and imitated by other bishops.

After thirty years of general indifference from the episcopacy, it's nice to see one taking a stand.

On the other hand, it is not a formal excommunication or interdict. It has no teeth. Gov. Davis is, in effect, told to police himself on the matter.

And Davis can certainly find "dissenting" theologians who will back him up, or who will use the theory of the "seemless garment" or the theory of the "four legs of the table" to say that his stand on welfare or the death penalty "makes up" for his support for aborticide.

I seem to recall watching Bill and Hillary receiving Communion at a Catholic Cathedral on TV at the hands of a bishop.

110 posted on 01/24/2003 1:43:55 AM PST by Dajjal
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To: Servant of the Nine
<> There will always be both wheat and chaff inside the Church. For some, that is reason enough to finger-point and say ,"Look, they have sinners in there, so I can do as I desire. I won't hear them unless they first do thus and such..."

Jesus knew the Catholic Church would contain sinners, sometimes great sinners and, sometimes, great numbers of great sinners, nevertheless, He said "He who hears you hears me.". He didn't qualify it one iota. The Catholic Church He identified as "The Pillar and Ground of Truth" - despite the personal sinfulnesss of its Hierarchy.

The fact of the matter is the Catholic Church is a hospital for the Spiritually ill - and that includes me and (presumably) thee - unless you are impeccable<>

111 posted on 01/24/2003 4:43:44 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: gubamyster
"As your bishop, I have to say clearly that anyone – politician or otherwise – who thinks it is acceptable for a Catholic to be pro-abortion is in very great error, puts his or her soul at risk, and is not in good standing with the church," Weigand said. "Such a person should have the integrity to acknowledge this and choose of his own volition to abstain from receiving Holy Communion until he has a change of heart."

Thank God someone had the guts to say this. It's about time. I'm sad to say our bishop has never found this courage.

112 posted on 01/24/2003 6:39:40 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: All; Clemenza
Sign the petition, I did:

http://www.cathfam.org/cfexcom/Excom.html

Herod's Heroes:

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2001May/2001hh.htm

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2002Mar/house.htm

Pray the Rosary:
http://www.rosariesforlife.org/information.asp

Very Important Thread for Catholics
Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics
A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States

http://www.nccbuscc.org/prolife/gospel.htm

Vote Catholic and get on their e mail list, larryvote@aol.com
http://www.catholicvote.org

Catechism
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm#2270 http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm
Canon Law
http://members.aol.com/abtrbng/canonl.htm
Humanae Vitae
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Paul06/p6humana.htm

VERITATIS SPLENDOR
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_06081993_veritatis-splendor_en.html
OCTAGESIMA ADVENIENS
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Paul06/p6oct.htm
Evangelium Vitae
http://www.newadvent.org/docs/jp02ev.htm
End Socialism
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11QUADR.HTM
The Bible's Teaching Against Abortion
By: Fr. Frank A. Pavone
http://www.priestsforlife.org/brochures/thebible.html
Catholic Activism
http://www.diocesereport.com/guest_col/kopp_activism_march01.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/780464/posts
113 posted on 01/25/2003 6:24:48 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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