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(Arizona) State Senate kills bill to train Guard troops near U.S.-Mex. border
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Tucson Citizen ^
| Jan 22, 2003
| AP
Posted on 01/22/2003 9:37:47 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder
Edited on 05/07/2004 5:37:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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The best comments I could make are all extremely obscene. The politicians will continue to dither.
Emilia Banuelos, a Phoenix immigration attorney, urged members of the Senate Government Committee to kill Harper's bill because it would send a negative message to Mexicans who enter Arizona legally.
It would send an even more negative message to those who enter illegally.
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posted on
01/22/2003 9:39:43 AM PST
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Support Free Republic
(Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
To: JackelopeBreeder
Sorry to say I went to school with Jay Tibshraeny's sister. It may NOT be a "state job," but sooner or later someone must deal with it: why not be PRO-ACTIVE, and make a case for "states' rights" by taking state action?
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01/22/2003 9:45:20 AM PST
by
LS
To: JackelopeBreeder
"I think we have more important things to do nationally and internationally than to be doing these kinds of things now," said Sen. Jay Tibshraeny, the Chandler Republican who chairs the committee.
What is more important than securing our boarders? Sen Jay Tibshraeny is an idiot and I intend to tell him so. I think all Arizonans should flood these idiots' emails and phone lines with calls. I live in Arizona and I'm tired of people flooding over our boarder do take advantage of our system or to do us harm. All Americans should be outraged by the stupidity of some of our elected officials.
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posted on
01/22/2003 9:50:01 AM PST
by
BMC1
To: JackelopeBreeder
Sounds like Arizona will soon be annexed to Mehico.
Hey, what the heck, the voters get the kind of government they deserve.
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posted on
01/22/2003 9:50:34 AM PST
by
G.Mason
(Nah...No sense voting...My vote doesn't count)
To: G.Mason
We really DON'T have any representation in Cochise County. We got gerrymandered apart for the convenience of the two parties. My part got tossed into a district with Tucson, 70 miles away. The rest of the county is part of a district made up of bits and pieces of land all over the state -- some of it over 200 miles away.
Our two Congressmen for the border counties are both from Tucson. They know they can ignore us without it affecting their vote tallies in any meaningful way.
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posted on
01/22/2003 10:02:43 AM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
("Push to test." <click> "Release to detonate.")
To: madfly
fyi
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posted on
01/22/2003 10:07:17 AM PST
by
Free the USA
(Stooge for the Rich)
To: JackelopeBreeder
"
We really DON'T have any representation in Cochise County....."
Seems like it would affect the entire State.
Where are the rest of the voters, or don't they care?
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posted on
01/22/2003 10:18:01 AM PST
by
G.Mason
(Nah...No sense voting...My vote doesn't count)
To: G.Mason
It does affect the rest of the state and the nation. However, it is usually so incremental for them that they don't notice.
Most of the millions coming over the Arizona border are intent only on hitting I-8 and I-10 and dispersing throughout the country.
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posted on
01/22/2003 10:32:47 AM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
("Push to test." <click> "Release to detonate.")
To: All
Gee, don't bank robberies, for example, fall under federal jurisdiction too? Does that mean no local or state officials will prevent, stop, or investigate them now, too?
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Sen. Harper's proposal wouldn't have made a bit of difference on illegal immigration. I'm in the AZNG and
we train near the border all the time ( my platoons in Douglas). Our being there doesn't deter illegals, except when they know we're on orders to support Customs/Border Patrol.
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posted on
01/22/2003 11:21:01 AM PST
by
redhawk
To: BMC1
SB1014 ____
Bill Overview national guard training; location
(Harper, Pearce, Pierce, et al)
Tues. 1/21/03
AZ Legislators Roster - email, phone & fax numbers Toni Hellon(R) thellon@azleg.state.az.us (phone #) (602)542-4326 (Fax #) (602)417-3259
Ken Cheuvront (D) kcheuvro@azleg.state.az.us (phone and fax numbers at the link above)
Jay Tibshraeny (R) jtibshra@azleg.state.az.us
Jack C. Jackson Sr.(R) jjackson@azleg.state.az.us
Jim Waring (R) jwaring@azleg.state.az.us
Jorge Luis Garcia (D) jgarcia@azleg.state.az.us
Slade Mead (R) smead@azleg.state.az.us
Jack W. Harper (R) jharper@azleg.state.az.us (only YES vote)
Harry E. Mitchell (D) hmitchel@azleg.state.az.us
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01/22/2003 12:40:16 PM PST
by
madfly
To: B4Ranch; FITZ; Tancredo Fan; Fish out of Water; Ajnin; agitator; Tancred; backhoe; ...
ping
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:43:46 PM PST
by
madfly
To: JackelopeBreeder
"It's not our job," Rataczak said. Coward.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:58:25 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: madfly
"There's more speculation that there are Middle Eastern terrorists coming across our border," said Harper, a former guardsman. Dont tell Tom Ridge HE thinks the Candian border is the threat with all the Canadians coming across in mass
I can only conclude that the government WANTS another 9/11 it makes us feel like victims and allows them to take away our constitutional right to privacy...
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01/22/2003 1:13:58 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: madfly
Where's the "great" Bill O'Reilly on this one? Where's his (and FOX's)'righteous anger' that they exhibit for many other less relevant issues? Why doesn't FOX, who likes to make us believe they're interested in fair and balanced reporting, hammer away on this??
People ARE trying to do something about this, but business and gov't "leaders" are preventing any meaningful action. Time is short and so the situation needs maximum exposure that only FOX can provide. Why does FOX continue to wimp out?
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posted on
01/22/2003 1:47:58 PM PST
by
Paulie
To: Paulie
O'Reilly has been out front and center on this issue lately. Guess you missed it. However, I do agree with your sentiment. He is about the only commentator who has even addressed the issue.
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01/22/2003 2:39:56 PM PST
by
GaConfed
To: JackelopeBreeder; BMC1; G.Mason; redhawk; Carry_Okie; RnMomof7; FITZ; Marine Inspector; Ajnin
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2003/01/20/daily34.html
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¦ REFERENCE TITLE: national guard; mobilization; border control ¦
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¦ ¦
¦ State of Arizona ¦
¦ House of Representatives ¦
¦ Forty-sixth Legislature ¦
¦ First Regular Session ¦
¦ 2003 ¦
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¦ HB 2317 ¦
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¦ Introduced by ¦
¦ Representatives Graf, Pearce, Barnes: Hart, Konopnicki, Nichols ¦
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AN ACT
AMENDING TITLE 26, CHAPTER 1, ARTICLE 3, ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES, BY ADDING SECTION 26-183; RELATING TO THE NATIONAL GUARD.
(TEXT OF BILL BEGINS ON NEXT PAGE)
Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:
Section 1. Title 26, chapter 1, article 3, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 26-183, to read:
26-183. National guard border control; mobilization; activities
A. THE GOVERNOR MAY MOBILIZE THE NATIONAL GUARD OF THIS STATE TO ENGAGE IN ACTIVITIES RELATING TO CONTROL OF THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THIS STATE.
B. ON MOBILIZATION, THE NATIONAL GUARD OF THIS STATE MAY ENTER INTO MUTUAL ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT AGREEMENTS PERTAINING TO BORDER CONTROL ACTIVITIES WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND THE BORDER PATROL OPERATING IN THIS STATE.
____________________________________________________
From "The Business Journal" Arizona Edition, Wed. Jan. 22, 2003.
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/legtext/46leg/1r/bills/hb2317p.htm
Arizona leaders urge military border presence
Mike Sunnucks The Business Journal
A group of Arizona Republican state lawmakers wants the U.S. military to help patrol the Mexican border.
GOP legislators have introduced a resolution in the Arizona House of Representatives calling for the U.S. Congress and the Bush administration to allow greater military involvement in securing the southwestern border.
The resolution is sponsored by eight Republicans, including State Reps. Randy Graf, Andy Biggs, Mark Thompson, Russell Pearce and House Majority Leader Eddie Farnsworth.
With security tightened in California and Texas since the 2001 terrorist strikes, Arizona's rural border region has become a major entry point for illegal immigrants. The influx is straining local communities forced to cope with increased crime and drug trafficking and swamped hospital emergency rooms.
Federal law mandates hospitals provide emergency care to illegal immigrants, who are in many cases indigent.
If passed the resolution's recommendations would be forwarded to Congressional leaders and the state's delegation on Capitol Hill.
The resolution is one of several actions being considered by the State Legislature to better control and regulate immigration.
At the federal level, Congress will consider a guest worker program for Mexicans working in the U.S. Congressman Jeff Flake has a proposal on the table and U.S. Sen. John McCain is also interested in the idea.
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posted on
01/22/2003 2:58:57 PM PST
by
madfly
To: JackelopeBreeder
bttt
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posted on
01/22/2003 3:01:06 PM PST
by
madfly
To: JackelopeBreeder
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01/22/2003 4:42:44 PM PST
by
Missouri
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