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Destination: Mars--This time, a reason for optimism.
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| 01/22/2003
| Glenn Harlan Reynolds
Posted on 01/22/2003 5:26:59 AM PST by SJackson
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:26:59 AM PST
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SJackson
To: SJackson
I pray that this is true! GO W!
To: Brett66; SJackson
Ping for your space list.
There has been a great deal of buzz about nuclear propulsion and a Mars mission here at the Johnson Space Center. I'll take this a good sign that the administration is serious about this.
To: Constantine XIII
The need for nuclear propulsion on this mission means that this trip could not possibly be launched by NASA. In the long run, this will be a good thing. Imagine what the settling of the West would have looked like if it had been entirely a government operation.
To: SJackson
Call me nuts but I strongly support such a project.
We've got to get off this rock and expand our horizons.
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:37:38 AM PST
by
DB
(©)
To: SJackson
This is good news. It is humanity's destiny to control the stars and this is the first step.
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:38:47 AM PST
by
Sparta
(Statism is a mental illness)
To: Constantine XIII
Oh please God don't let it be a multi-national project!
Let's do ourselves!
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:40:12 AM PST
by
DB
(©)
To: DB
Where did the "it" go...
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:41:06 AM PST
by
DB
(©)
To: SJackson
It seems that W is a futurist. He sees things in the long term of things. Not the short term of things. I'm glad I voted for him!
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:41:18 AM PST
by
KevinDavis
(Marsward Ho!)
To: SJackson
What folks don't seem to understand is that human beings carry sin with us wherever we go - onto the internet, which initially was a neutral environment, and now is permeated with porn and other crap, as well as constantly being overrun by some new "virus" - and to Mars, where future colonies would only reflect the character of the founders - namely, human beings. Only with God are new creations possible that won't be overcome by sin.
But it's a cool idea anyway. As a kid I read Ray Bradbury voraciously, and have always believed we'd go to Mars someday.
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:43:07 AM PST
by
ncpastor
(secret agent against the gates of hell)
To: SJackson
It's possible to go to Mars using chemical rockets alone, but just barely.
Not true. A manned mission to Mars using chemical rockets is very possible and always has been. What has been lacking is the political will to do so.
To: DB
Let's do ourselves! Careful...
You'll go blind. :)
To: SJackson
Orion. A big(!), thick, hemisphere with a battleship on top. Light off a nuclear bomb underneath, and, voila!
Now THAT would be something to watch as it launched!
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:56:15 AM PST
by
Mr. Thorne
(...who has read too many Niven and Pournelle novels.)
To: DB
Oh please God don't let it be a multi-national project!
Let's do ourselves!
I suppose we can take the Brits and Japanese along...
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posted on
01/22/2003 5:57:26 AM PST
by
Chemist_Geek
("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
To: Chemist_Geek
Rock Hudson's already been there.
To: SJackson
Mars and lunar colonization BUMP!!
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posted on
01/22/2003 6:03:21 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: SJackson
The future of mankind is in space. It is the nature of man to always venture past the horizon. And while the EnviroNasis want to take us back to the stone age, The Prez wants to take us into the future.
I can envision new nations being founded among our Solar planets. Who will be the founding fathers of those, I wonder?
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posted on
01/22/2003 6:04:44 AM PST
by
Search4Truth
(The future is out there.)
To: Sparta
Beginning space colonization could rejuvenate American civilization... the thing is it won't be able to act as a safety valve( the way the Old West was) for that many people, as a martian colony (when in probably 30 or 40 years we get the technology to support one as of now the logistics just aren't possible, hydroponics and some ability to generate oxygen could make such a colony self succficient) will not be able to support a large mass of people not initially anyway. Most likely Mars would be used as a base of operations for mining the Asteroid belt. I reccomend we tackle the moon 1st and work to develop the neccasary science and technology in lightsails, artificial gravity( probably the most difficult as the science is not well understood), robotic probes, terraforming etc. Then expand outward through the solar system.
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posted on
01/22/2003 6:05:09 AM PST
by
weikel
To: SJackson
The meek shall inherit the Earth. The stars belong to the bold.
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posted on
01/22/2003 6:05:53 AM PST
by
Junior
(Insert tag here =>)
To: SJackson
The administration's Mars proposal is at least a step in the right direction, and its adoption of nuclear space propulsion indicates more realism than the flags-and-footprints approach favored by the previous Bush administrations.First, I'm aware of only ONE "previous Bush administration" (from 1989-1993). Second, it's simply not true that G.H.W. Bush favored a "flags and footprints" approach. One of the things that killed SEI (his Moon-Mars Initiative) was that it intended to do precisely what this guy wanted -- make nuclear rocket engines and establish permanent footholds on both the Moon and Mars. That's why the Democrat Congress killed it.
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