Posted on 01/19/2003 7:25:24 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
Police have raided Finsbury Park mosque in north London, arresting a number of people. The mosque has attracted controversy over its connection with radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza.
Mr Hamza, who preaches at the mosque, faces exclusion as an agent of the North London Central Mosque trust because of "inflammatory and highly political" speeches at prayers.
Scotland Yard said the raid was carried out at 0200 GMT on Monday by police officers with search warrants issued under the Terrorism Act 2000.
More soon...
As I said. He crosses my path, and he is short one more eyeball and appendage.
Won't happen, which one of the reasons the pilgrims left England and the terrorists know it
But it seems the terrorists thought England had the same laws as us
They're being pressured hard by, get this, the French:
A forgotten war that is bringing terror to our streets (The Times of London on Algeria, Ricin Plot)
When the French authorities cautioned that Britain was becoming a magnet for a terror diaspora, the response was more a shrug than a shudder. But the arrests in London and Manchester, and the murder of a policeman, have finally woken Britain to the Algerian terror laboratory that has been churning out militants for a decade.The contrast between the two countries is stark. In France, under direct attack, the inquisitorial judicial system went after the terrorists, but we preferred merely to “monitor” suspected militants. European diplomats grimly referred to “Londonistan”, pointing to our liberal asylum laws and tolerance of extremist propaganda in British mosques. As many as 40,000 Algerians may have arrived here over the past decade, but officials rechecking asylum applications say they have so far been able to trace only a fraction.
French fury at what they see as lunatic leniency on Britain’s part has focused on the case of Rashid Ramda, an Algerian granted asylum in Britain in 1992 and accused by France of masterminding the bombing campaign on the Métro. For nearly eight years the Home Office has refused to extradite Ramda; only after 9/11 did David Blunkett finally sign the extradition, which was then overturned by the High Court pending an evaluation of whether the suspect’s safety could be assured if he was handed over to France.
The French, signatories to the same human rights conventions as Britain, are understandably livid, seeing the Ramda case as symptomatic of a failure to appreciate and act on the Algerian threat. Frustrated by Britain’s policy of “watchful tolerance”, French secret service agents are now said to be conducting their own surveillance of the Algerian community in Britain.
Regards, Ivan
ISLAM-ONLINE.net - News: Paris. "FIRST UNIFIED ISLAMIC COUNCIL IN FRANCE IN PLACE" (ARTICLE SNIPPETS: "The day-to-day tasks of the new Council will be providing clergy to minister to Muslims in the army, universities and prisons, acquiring burial sites, delivering halal meat certificates, organising the pilgrimage to Mecca and building new mosques and prayer-halls. Fekkar-Lambiotte and another leading liberal, the mufti of the main Marseille mosque Soheib Ben Sheikh, both agreed to take up places on the Council's central committee."..."Algeria funds about 200 religious centers, while Saudi Arabia provided 90 percent of the money for the main mosque in Lyon. In addition 90 percent of French imams are paid by foreign countries, including Boubaker himself who is an employee of the Algerian government.") (122002)
WorldNetDaily.com: "TERROR ATTACK FOILED IN FRANCE? by Jon Dougherty (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Quoting unidentified police sources, French radio and television reports and the daily newspaper Le Parisien said the group was planning a chemical attack. UPI reported that French police seized empty containers, vials of suspicious fluids, powders and a chemical suit, along with $5,000 in cash and phony identification papers in the Paris suburb of Seine-Saint-Denis. Specialists are currently studying the materials...") (121802)
BBC News: "POLICE SEIZE CHEMICALS IN PARIS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "All three men, arrested in a dawn raid on Monday, are reported to be of North African origin. The French news agency AFP quoted a source close to the investigation, who said that the men had all spent time in both Afghanistan and Chechnya. Some French media reports described the three men as Algerians, and said they were allegedly preparing a chemical attack.") **Note: This article has been recently updated. (121702)
TELEGRAPH.co.uk: "COLLAPSE OF 'FARCIAL' DUTCH AL-QA'EDA TRIAL EXPOSES JUSTICE SYSTEM'S DIFFICULTIES" by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "After a trial criticised as farcical, a court in Rotterdam freed four members of an Islamic cell accused of plotting to blow up the US embassy in Paris and a Nato base at Kleine Brogel in Belgium. The alleged ringleader, Jerome Courtailler, was a laddish Roman Catholic butcher and football champion who grew up in the little French Alpine town of Bonneville, near Mont Blanc, before converting to Islam two years ago in an attempt to free himself from drug addiction.") (121902)
BBC News: "FRENCH CLERIC FACES SHOE-BOMB INQUIRY" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The move against Kamel Lakhram, the imam or prayer leader of a mosque north of Paris, allows investigators to continue their inquiries and decide if he should be charged. French authorities have been trying to establish what logistical or financial help Reid had before he boarded a Paris to Miami flight in December 2001 and tried to detonate explosives hidden in his shoes. The mosque leader was one of eight suspects police arrested last Tuesday by French police investigating Reid's activities.") (120102)
HAARETZ DAILY.com: "ALLEGED QAIDA STATEMENT CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR KENYA ATTACK" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "A purported al Qaida statement posted on the Internet on Monday claimed that the Islamic group had carried out last Thursday's twin attacks on the Paradise hotel and Arkia airliner in Kenya. Internet analysts said that the statement includes phrases, terms and nicknames that have characterized other remarks made by the group. The statement surfaced on www.arabforum.net, and was signed by the "Political Office of Qaida al-Jihad."") (120302)
JERUSALEM POST.com (The Associated Press, London): "MUSLIM CLERIC SAYS AL-QAIDA PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KENYA ATTACKS" (ARTICLE NOTE: The "Muslim Cleric" is identified as Abu Hamza Al-Masri. Muslim Cleric Abu Hamza Al-Masri leads prayers at London's Finsbury Park Mosque. (113002)
CNS NEWS.com: "RADICALS HAIL BIN LADEN AS 'HERO'" by Mike Wendling (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "London (CNSNews.com) - Attendees at a radical Islamic conference held one year after the Sept. 11 attacks hailed terrorist leader Osama bin Laden as a "hero" and warned of possible suicide bombings in the United States and Britain. The conference at the Finsbury Park mosque in north London was organized by al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that advocates the worldwide imposition of strict Islamic law. Wednesday's proceedings were led by al-Muhajiroun leader Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed and Abu Hamza al-Masri, who is wanted in Yemen for his alleged connections to the Islamic Army of Aden - the group that claimed responsibility for the bombing of the USS Cole in October 2000.") (091202)
SEATTLE PI.com - SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER: "RANCH'S EFFORTS AT TERROR TRAINING DETAILED Muslim Who Lived at Oregon Site Tells How Scheme Fell Apart" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Now, three years later, the aborted scheme to help advance the cause of Islamic radicals -- while also making a buck -- is a key element in an FBI investigation aimed at proving that London cleric Abu Hamza al Masri recruited al-Qaida members and supported international terrorism. The Egyptian-born Abu Hamza is wanted in Yemen on terrorism charges and the U.S. Treasury Department has frozen his assets in this country. Hamza's London mosque had been visited by Zacarias Moussaoui, who was charged in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks, and by others with terrorist connections. The investigation, rooted in Western Washington, became public last month. At its center is Ujaama, a Seattle businessman, Web site designer and self-styled entrepreneur now in custody in Virginia...") (August 9, 2002)
CNS NEWS.com: "RADICALS HAIL BIN LADEN AS 'HERO'" by Mike Wendling (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "London (CNSNews.com) - Attendees at a radical Islamic conference held one year after the Sept. 11 attacks hailed terrorist leader Osama bin Laden as a "hero" and warned of possible suicide bombings in the United States and Britain. The conference at the Finsbury Park mosque in north London was organized by al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that advocates the worldwide imposition of strict Islamic law. Wednesday's proceedings were led by al-Muhajiroun leader Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed and Abu Hamza al-Masri, who is wanted in Yemen for his alleged connections to the Islamic Army of Aden - the group that claimed responsibility for the bombing of the USS Cole in October 2000.") (091202)
TELEGRAPH.co.uk: "LONDON RALLY FOR FANATICS" by Phillip Johnston (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The meeting at Finsbury Park mosque is being organised by al-Muhajiroun (The Emigrants), a fundamentalist organisation that is dedicated to the establishment of a world Islamic state.") (September 11, 2001)
ICB BIRMINGHAM.icnetwork.co.uk: "MUSLIM LEADER WARNS BLAIR" by Richard Warburton, Birmingham Post (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Birmingham-based leader of an extreme Islamic group last night issued a warning to Tony Blair that a military strike on Iraq would be an attack on three million Muslims in Britain. Dr Imran Waheed, of the Hizb ut-Tahrir political party, said America had engaged in a war against Islam, not against terror, and urged the Prime Minister to stop interfering in the Muslim world.") (090902)
Sounds like something Churchill would have said, but he would not have waited so long, but better late than never.
A very clear step in the right direction.
Pussy footing around does not save lives. Now we need Europe and the rest of the world to follow and not in 2004 but in January of 2003, then we will be in a war we can win.
If we continue to let these people live and preach hatred and converse with like minded people, then I suggest you cancel the education arrangements for your children and your Grand Children, because they may not be around to take advantage of it.
If these other countries (europe and the rest of the world)do not follow suit and we find that these type of extremists are in there countries, we should ban all flights from that country, as well as economic sanctions, and threaten them with invasion if they fail to comply within 30 days.
The time for being diplomatic is well and truly over... and if you liberals do not like it, then find another country to live in.
THIS IS LONDON.com: "POLICEMAN KILLED IN TERROR SWEEP" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "A police officer was stabbed to death and four others were injured during the arrest of three terrorist suspects. The operation was linked to last week's discovery of the deadly poison ricin in London. The officer died as three suspects were arrested at a flat in Crumpsall, north Manchester. Greater Manchester Assistant Chief Constable Alan Green said the 40-year-old plain clothes constable died of stab wounds at North Manchester General Hospital after receiving emergency treatment at the scene.") (January 14, 2003)
BBC NEWS: "FOUR ON CHEMICAL TERROR CHARGES" (ARTICLE SNIPPETS: "Four men have been charged with producing chemical weapons following the discovery of the deadly poison ricin in a north London flat. The men, described as North Africans, were among seven arrested after anti-terrorist police raided the Wood Green flat and allegedly found a small amount of the substance. Mouloud Feddag, Sidali Feddag, Samir Feddag and Mustapha Taleb, 33, were charged under section 57 of the Terrorism Act with "possession of articles of value to a terrorist". They were also charged under the Chemical Weapons Act 1996 with "being concerned in the development or production of chemical weapons"....A fifth man, Nasreddine Fekhadji, was charged with two offences under the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act."..."A sixth man has been arrested for alleged possession of drugs and immigration matters, and is expected to be bailed to return pending further enquiries. A seventh man has been released into the custody of the Immigration Service, Scotland Yard confirmed.") (January 12, 2003)
OCTOBER 13, 1990 : (LEBANON) During Desert Shield, while Iraq was still in Kuwait, Syria used the distraction as cover for a move to massacre hundreds of Lebanese Army soldiers and officers, primarily if not all Christians, and asserted control over the country.
(PERSIAN GULF WAR, PAKISTAN) During the Persian Gulf war, Pakistani authorities actively sought to counter possible terrorist threats. At least one Iraqi diplomat was declared persona non grata and two other Iraqis were arrested and expelled for their questionable activities. Pakistan has also cooperated with the U.S. investigation of an additional suspect in the 1986 hijacking of Pan American Flight 73. - "Patterns of Global Terrorism: 1991, " http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_91/asia.html , Asia Overview
1990 late -1991 early : (IRAQI HIT TEAMS) ...In late 1990 and early 1991, at the outset of the Persian Gulf War, the Iraqis sent 20 to 30 two-men teams from the Arab Liberation Front to attack U.S. targets around the world. "In almost every case, they failed," the former senior CIA official said. In one incident in Manila, afterwards called "Operation Mincemeat" by the CIA, the Iraqi team blew itself up with its own bomb. this republication of a UPI article from Aug. 13, 2001
1991 : (INDONESIA, IRAQI ATTEMPT TO KILL US AMBASSADOR) Nevertheless, Iraq did come within a hair of scoring a major success against the United States in Jakarta, Indonesia in 1991. The episode is still classified, but UPI has learned that an Iraqi assassination team almost succeeded in killing the U.S. ambassador to Indonesia, John Cameron Monjo. The Iraqi agents had had done a thorough surveillance of the diplomat and his habits. They discovered that every evening at 6 p.m., he would go to a certain window with a flowerpot on the sill and drink a scotch and soda. The Iraqi team gained access to the house and put a bomb in the flowerpot. But an alert gardener spotted something odd: It was a piece of the bomb that the terrorist had left in plain sight on the window sill. The explosive device was removed and detonated, said UPI's source, a former U.S. intelligence analyst. this republication of a UPI article from Aug. 13, 2001
1991 : (PAKISTAN, BOMBINGS AND TERROR, SOME IRAQ-BACKED) There were also numerous bombings in Pakistan's major cities throughout the year. The Pakistani Government frequently attributed these attacks and other acts of violence to the intelligence services of India and Afghanistan. The US is unable, however, to determine if the incidents were carried out by terrorists or criminals, or if there was external involvement. Several terrorist attacks related to the Persian Gulf war and probably organized by Iraq or Iraqi sympathizers occurred in Pakistan in 1991. - "Patterns of Global Terrorism: 1991, " http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_91/asia.html , Asia Overview
JANUARY 16, 1991 : (INDIA : IRAQI-BACKED TERRORISTS BOMB AMERICAN AIRLINES TRAVEL AGENCY) Iraqi terrorists or their surrogates probably were responsible for the bombing of the American Airlines Travel Agency, an Indian-owned agent of American Airlines, in New Delhi on 16 January. The blast caused extensive damage but no casualties. - "Patterns of Global Terrorism: 1991, " http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_91/asia.html , Asia Overview
JANUARY 19, 1991 : (PHILIPPINES, IRAQI TERRORISTS) Philippine authorities aggressively worked against terrorists during the Persian Gulf war, particularly Iraqis who planned to conduct operations against Western targets in Manila. On 19 January, a bomb exploded close to the Thomas Jefferson Cultural Center in Manila, killing the man carrying the device -- an Iraqi national -- and seriously injuring his partner, also an Iraqi. Following the attempted bombing, the consul general of the Iraqi embassy was expelled. Manila also rejected the credentials of an arriving Iraqi diplomat and forced him to depart. Two Iraqi students were also expelled. - "Patterns of Global Terrorism: 1991, " http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_91/asia.html , Asia Overview
FEBRUARY 1991 : (PAKISTAN : ATTACK ON SAUDI CONSUL'S RESIDENCE & UK CHARITY) A bomb exploded as it was thrown over the wall of the residence of the Saudi Consul General in Karachi, injuring a security guard. Later in the month a British-sponsored humanitarian organization in Peshawar was bombed. - "Patterns of Global Terrorism: 1991, " http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_91/asia.html , Asia Overview
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