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Music Exec: ISPs Must Pay Up for Music-Swapping
Reuters ^ | January 18, 2003 | Bernhard Warner

Posted on 01/19/2003 7:18:43 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort

CANNES, France (Reuters) - A top music executive said on Saturday that telecommunications companies and Internet service providers (ISPs) will be asked to pay up for giving their customers access to free song-swapping sites.

The music industry is in a tailspin with global sales of CDs expected to fall six percent in 2003, its fourth consecutive annual decline. A major culprit, industry watchers say, is online piracy.

Now, the industry wants to hit the problem at its source -- Internet service providers.

"We will hold ISPs more accountable," said Hillary Rosen, chairman and CEO the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), in her keynote speech at the Midem music conference on the French Riviera.

"Let's face it. They know there's a lot of demand for broadband simply because of the availability (of file-sharing)," Rosen said.

As broadband access in homes has increased across the Western world, so has the activity on file-sharing services.

IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE

The RIAA is a powerful trade body that has taken a number of file-swapping services, including the now defunct Napster, to court in an effort to shut them down.

Rosen suggested one possible scenario for recouping lost sales from online piracy would be to impose a type of fee on ISPs that could be passed on to their customers who frequent these file-swapping services.

Mario Mariani, senior vice president of media and access at Tiscali, Europe's third largest ISP, dismissed the notion, calling it impossible to enforce.

"The peer-to-peer sites are impossible to fight. In any given network, peer-to-peer traffic is between 30 and 60 percent of total traffic. We technically cannot control such traffic," he said.

Rosen's other suggestions for fighting online piracy were more conciliatory.

She urged the major music labels, which include Sony Music, Warner Music, EMI, Universal Music and Bertelsmann's BMG, to ease licensing restrictions, develop digital copyright protections for music, and invest more in promoting subscription download services.

Pressplay and MusicNet, the online services backed by the majors, plus independent legitimate services such as Britain's Wippit.com, sounded somewhat optimistic about their longterm chances to derail free services such as Kazaa and Morpheus.

But they also acknowledged they cannot compete with the "free" players until the labels clear up the licensing morass that keeps new songs from being distributed online for a fee.

LEGAL STEP

Officials from Pressplay and MusicNet, which are in their second year in operation, declined to disclose how many customers they have.

"We haven't really started yet," said Alan McGlade, CEO of MusicNet, when asked about his subscriber base.

Michael Bebel, CEO of Pressplay, said his customers tally is in the tens of thousands. He added that the firm, backed by Universal and Sony, could expand into Canada in the first half of the year, its second market after the U.S. He didn't have a timeframe for Europe.

Meanwhile, Kazaa and Morpheus claim tens of millions of registered users who download a wide variety of tracks for free.

Rosen hailed a recent U.S. court decision which ruled that Kazaa, operated by Australian-based technology firm Sharman Networks, could be tried in America, as an important legal step to halting the activities of file-sharing services.

"It's clear to me these companies are profiting to the tune of millions and millions of dollars. They must be held accountable," Rosen said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: kazaa; peertopeer; riaa; rosen
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Why stop there? Go after the power companies who supply the electricity to power all those thieving PCs and the hard drive manufacturers who produce all those huge storage devices.
1 posted on 01/19/2003 7:18:43 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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2 posted on 01/19/2003 7:19:29 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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Brilliant! That's why they got their MBA's! All night brainstorming sessions yielding results.
3 posted on 01/19/2003 7:20:27 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Someone left the cake out in the rain I dont think that I can take it coz it took so long to bake it)
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And then wedding bands can sue the Recording Industry Association of America for all the wages they lost due to rent-a-DJ.
4 posted on 01/19/2003 7:25:16 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Leroy S. Mort
You're closer than you think!

A few years back, at the urging of the record industry, the Candian government was all set to introduce an "anticopying fee" of $5 per blank CD. They only backed down a few weeks before the announced start date when the public threatened a revolt, and have continued to threaten its re-introduction.

Greedy bunts!!!
7 posted on 01/19/2003 7:31:06 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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It gets to the point where these RIAA people are so arrogant, and so offensive, that even though the illegal copying is wrong, one hopes it puts these loathsome wretches out of business.
8 posted on 01/19/2003 7:33:41 PM PST by Nick Danger (Secret Iraqi tag hiding from Hans Blix)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
The music industry is a joke. With the liberals now completely in charge of the entertainmnet industry corporate takeover of radio stations, freedom of expression has gone out the window as DJs are now automated robots. There is no outlet for new music other than canned crap which is the fashion of the moment but soon forgotten. Creativity has been stifled. Blaming the internet is a joke especially when you consider the outrageous prices they still charge on music made in the past by the music stars who made them at much lower cost. Now they want to charge the ISPs!!! Look at yourselves you dumb liberals and realize you are the problem. Wait till everybody is on high speed internet, then internet radio and video station by many will bypass your stranglehold on distribution of music, musicians will no longer need record labels and companies when they can do it on non-restrictive outlets,
9 posted on 01/19/2003 7:57:44 PM PST by TransOxus
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To: canuck_conservative
I've been advocating this for years. The only way to continue to allow unlimited downloading of all media is to charge at the source and distribute the income to the various industries as royalties.

Then you can still download all ya want. And the creators won't continue to get screwed.

10 posted on 01/19/2003 8:00:01 PM PST by zarf
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Creators will just have to get compensated in different ways, like charging for live performances. Then it comes round full circle, before radio, TV, phonographs and tapes, there was only the live performance.

The amount of money a performer got per listening of their songs was less than pennies for even the most popular. The record industry has just evolved into a set of pimps to exploit the talent of some of these people. Now, somebody's found a way to get satisfaction without paying the pimps, so they're acting nasty about losing "turf". Too bad, so sad.

11 posted on 01/19/2003 8:06:45 PM PST by hunter112
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But it's blatantly unfair!

What if I want to back up a bunch of non-music files onto CD? Why do I have to pay an extra fee to the RIAA? Screw them!
12 posted on 01/19/2003 8:24:35 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Leroy S. Mort
These guys simply refuse to get it: people aren't buying CDs for the simple reason that the major labels are churning out crap that nobody wants to listen to. Apparently, nothing will hammer this into their thick skulls, not even the surprise sales success of Norah Jones, one of the few people who appeared on a widely-distributed label last year who actually has musical talent and knows what a good song is.

I am a music fan and a record collector, and I buy lots of CDs, but in my tens of thousands of LPs, singles, tapes and CDs, I don't have a single thing by Faith Hill, Britney Spears or any of the other flash-in-the-pan no talent rappers and hip-hoppers with their MTV-ready looks and tuneless, say-nothing songs that are being shoved down the radio listeners' ears. We're told that the labels push them because that's what people want, yet all of them are suffering from free-falling CD sales.

Meanwhile, here's a list of some people I consider to be the biggest talents in music, and whose CDs I always make it a point to buy. Best country singers: Don Williams and Lacy J. Dalton. Best pop songwriter: Marshall Crenshaw. Best female singer/songwriter: Amy Rigby. Best alt-country band: the Lucky Pierres. I could go on and on, and everyone I listed would have one thing in common: not a single one of them has a major label record deal. And until big time record executive weasels once again start signing and promoting artists based on their musical talent rather than their looks, fashion sense, attitude and age, they will continue to see their sales fall until they go bankrupt and have to stand around begging for cocaine on street corners. Can't happen soon enough to suit me.

13 posted on 01/19/2003 8:42:47 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Yeah, like this will fly...

The peer to peer applications that allow for file swapping will was born in the Internet underground and cannot be stopped. The RIAA is fighting a battle as winnable as the US War on Drugs. Sure, ISPs could block file downloading and also identify the song files that people are downloading, etc, but once this starts up, the file swapping will just morph again. Soon they'll move to encrypted forms of file swapping (this already exists in some underground circles) and at that point, the ISPs won't know what the heck the end-users are doing/downloading.

14 posted on 01/19/2003 8:43:31 PM PST by xrp
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To: HHFi
Is that the same Norah Jones who is Ravi Shankar's daughter? Reportedly, his two daughters are Grammy nominees.
15 posted on 01/19/2003 8:52:34 PM PST by TransOxus
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Die RIAA die! You greed bags are headed to the ash heap.
16 posted on 01/19/2003 9:02:14 PM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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yes
17 posted on 01/19/2003 9:02:51 PM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: TransOxus
The very same, although thank God, her music doesn't sound like Ravi Shankar. More like Billie Holiday. Like me, she attended North Texas State University, home of the One O'Clock Lab Band, first (and I think, only) university jazz band ever nominated for a Grammy.
18 posted on 01/19/2003 9:04:24 PM PST by HHFi
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It gets to the point where these RIAA people are so arrogant, and so offensive, that even though the illegal copying is wrong, one hopes it puts these loathsome wretches out of business.

My take too. And I'm not big on downloading tunes. You can just sense the RIAA greasing palms in Washington DC to get their dirty work done.

19 posted on 01/19/2003 9:09:04 PM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: TransOxus
Wait till everybody is on high speed internet, then internet radio and video station by many will bypass your stranglehold on distribution of music, musicians will no longer need record labels and companies when they can do it on non-restrictive outlets

I'm going to have the last laugh when all the freeloaders put the record companies out of business and then wonder why the only music they can find is crap like your kooky uncle recorded in his garage.

20 posted on 01/20/2003 4:37:32 AM PST by tdadams
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