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To: mamelukesabre
Sorry, but you are ill informed.

Jews have always assimilated into the common culture, once teh legal restrictions preventing them from doing so ended. Thus once they were emancipated in Europe, many Jews did integrate into French, German, Austrian, Hungarian..... societies. Many (including most of my family) went to public or non-Jewish schools and stopped speaking Yiddish. They served in the armies and in all forms of public life. Jews disporprotionately served in and dies in European armies in WWI.
Unfortunately, the nationalist movements refused to accept Jews. For instance, many Jews were origionally involved int he Hungarian and Polish Independence movements, only to be betrayed in 1848. Many German Jews were part of the 1848 attempt to unify Germany under a Liberal Constitutional Monarchy.

After World War I, Jews were very prominent in the Weimar Republic. That is one of the things Hitler ralled against.

The fact is that anti-Semties will hate Ghetto Jews, Court Jews, and assimilated Jews. Some will also hate Jews who converted to Christianity.

Ron.

PS. Take a look at American Jews. We are very integrated.

134 posted on 01/19/2003 2:11:28 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew
Yes, correct. Jews always tried to become a full part of a society - not like these parallele societies of Muslims in european cities.
136 posted on 01/19/2003 2:24:26 PM PST by Michael81Dus (Proud to be citizen of the Fed. Rep. of Germany, but not to be represented by Gerhard Schröder)
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To: rmlew
I wasn't around in WWII or prior. So I only know what I read.

The accepted explanation of why hitler's anti jewish policies were welcomed by the germans and the poles, is that the jews refused to participate in civic and military activities. The average citizen was angered by the jew's refusal to fight to defend the "homeland" even though it was painfully obvious that the jews were reaping the greatest rewards of their nation's economy. The average citizen, having strong feelings of pride and nationalism, would naturally dislike these people. The average german would naturally conclude that they were sending their children off to die so that the jew's children could live in the lap of luxury while at the same time having contempt for those that are sacrificing for them!

Your post seems to contradict what I've read.
158 posted on 01/25/2003 12:49:31 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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