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N. Korea SLAVE CAMP horror revealed
Msnbc.com ^ | 1/15/2003 | By Robert Windrem

Posted on 01/15/2003 8:48:32 PM PST by Gforce11

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To: Stingray
"Ironically, the same unfinished business we lament in 50's Korea and 90's Iraq, is nothing new."

Sun Tzu in "The Art Of War" says that the enemy needs to be destroyed completely. Unfortunately, too many times this lesson is not learned.

61 posted on 01/17/2003 10:01:16 AM PST by M. Peach (Eschew obsfucation)
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To: DBtoo
I would say that the reason you are seeing this now is so that the media can say, "See, we shouldn't be attacking Iraq, North Korea is worse". What they really mean is that we shouldn't attack North Korea either. Obfuscation (sp?) is the word I believe.
62 posted on 01/17/2003 10:11:17 AM PST by cmak9
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To: DBtoo
Iraq isn't going anywhere, may as well euthinize N. Korea first. We cannot survive if we fear the nuke.
63 posted on 01/17/2003 10:19:20 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Karsus
How long till Wal-Mart and other American companies beat a path to this untaped source of labor?

.........Path is well trodden - but the sheeple dont care as long as its cheap -

64 posted on 01/17/2003 10:39:32 AM PST by Revelation 911 (Get your own habitat)
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To: Gforce11
“All of North Korea is a gulag,”

This will come as a surprize to a lot of people, mostly democrats.
65 posted on 01/17/2003 10:41:20 AM PST by tet68
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To: gnarledmaw
The Koreans are humble and very much industrious people. They live in every Russian town. They raise vegetables, flowers and cook various tasteful things to sale as street-vendors. I repeat they are very pleasant and polite people. However I can see on TV-reports another kind of the Koreans having another behaviour, who are marching in review or shout like billy. If to compare three kinds of communism - Russian, Chinese and Korean, last is worst, stupid and infernal. I've read in Russian press in early 90's about Korean labour camps in Russian territory (Far East) where Korean slaves procured felled timber for North Korean People-Democratic Republic under full control of North Korean KGB which persecuted the runaways with horrible cruelty (don't forget, it was in Russian territory!). Later, I can not hear any rumors about Korea in Russian press and TV.
Chinese and Soviet communists helped to Korean since Stalin's times. They waded in Korean war though none from them had friendly feelings to Korean leader. Why? Korean communist elite up to 1956 consisted from three kinds.
1. "Soviet Koreans" - Citizens of USSR (Korean nationality) sent to Korea for restoration of economy and having occupied various posts.
2. "Chinese Koreans" - Citizens of China etc... read 1.
3. "Crypto-Communists" - well educated and organized people, former fighters (from underground) against Japanese invasion.
4. "Guerrillas" - most non-educated and wild people. They combated against Japan by Soviet weapon and from bases in Soviet Far East which 'Soviet Military Intelligence' (GRU) has organized for them.
After Khruschev's speech in XX Communist party convention in 1956, all communist parties in the world felt a shock. They were mixed-up. Korean "Guerrillas" killed all from groups 1, 3 and partially 2 (many from group 2 escaped into the China). Since these times, Kim Il Sung and his most wild & stupid communists are reigning in Korea. Despite this USSR and China continued to help Korea with single purpose - not to allow the USA to establish democratic regime in a whole territory of Korean peninsula and to take military control near borders of China and USSR. Since these times, Korean regime exist on doles of China & USSR (Russia) despite on well known facts of atrocities. Now, China & Russia reduced a volume of help. Horrible regime must die. But Kim Jong Il and his clique try to intimidate whole world with goal to get some food, oil-fuel products for continuing their reign.
The average Koreans are good but unhappy people.
66 posted on 01/17/2003 11:56:22 AM PST by Ivan Ivanov
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To: tictoc
"...strong unpleasantly wind..."

A key portion of their attack plan to neutralize the American force. This is where catapults lob clay vessels of kimchee into our lines...

67 posted on 01/17/2003 1:26:48 PM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Karsus
A slave camp? How long till Wal-Mart and other American companies beat a path to this untaped source of labor?

Perhaps they don't have to, as many goods are probably funneled from North Korea to China before ending up on the shelves at Wal-Mart and most other American outlets.

68 posted on 01/17/2003 3:37:14 PM PST by Alpha One
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To: Travis McGee
The book is new, and the English translation is very good; it's published by Yale University Press.

Yakovlev validates everything that Conquest and others have ever written about, but he's able to quote directly from Party documents. He also gives a unique insight into how the members of the Politburo thought. In some ways it verifies what we've known or suspected, but there are other moments where some of the politics behind the scenes were even stranger than we imagined.

I'm about 60 pages into the book, and am taking a break with some "brighter" reading before I continue. This thing should be a mandatory part of any course examining Communism or Russia. Yakovlev is definitely a fierce anti-communist, but he does an amazingly good job of keeping his emotions in check, unlike Solzhenitsin.

Hey, nice book cover! When will you go to print?

69 posted on 01/17/2003 4:24:51 PM PST by Matthew James
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To: Matthew James
I hope we will be reading post-mortems on the North Korean regime soon.

I hope to have the book printed in March.

I hope.

70 posted on 01/17/2003 5:34:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (Go out and Buy Lots Of Ammo Today!)
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To: Travis McGee
I see a recurring theme here - Best of luck with the book!
71 posted on 01/18/2003 6:30:16 AM PST by Matthew James
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To: jla; Travis McGee
Thanks for the link. Good to learn that Travis is a UVA grad. Will look forward to reading it also.
72 posted on 01/18/2003 11:17:38 AM PST by sultan88 (Free Iraq Now)
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To: Matthew James
Thanks!
73 posted on 01/18/2003 1:02:03 PM PST by Travis McGee (Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.)
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To: sultan88
Wahoo Wa!
74 posted on 01/18/2003 1:10:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (***PACIFISTS ARE THE PARASITES OF FREEDOM***)
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To: Gforce11
Yep...you'll never see the likes of Hollywoodies like Schpielberg and Hanks making movies
of any American GI's killing their ChiCom or NorKorCom buddies...
Never see any 'Heros' killing commies..
Any food aid we give these bast*rds will never get to the ones who need it most....but it will strengthen our enemies...
75 posted on 01/23/2003 12:04:13 PM PST by joesnuffy
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