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N. Korea SLAVE CAMP horror revealed
Msnbc.com ^ | 1/15/2003 | By Robert Windrem

Posted on 01/15/2003 8:48:32 PM PST by Gforce11

Death, terror in N. Korea gulag

A satellite image of the barracks and other facilities of Camp 22 at Haengyong in northeastern North Korea.

Jan. 15 -- NBC's Lisa Myers reports on the horrific accounts emerging from North Korea's prison labor camps.

By Robert Windrem MSNBC

Jan. 15 — In the far north of North Korea, in remote locations not far from the borders with China and Russia, a gulag not unlike the worst labor camps built by Mao and Stalin in the last century holds some 200,000 men, women and children accused of political crimes. A month-long investigation by NBC News, including interviews with former prisoners, guards and U.S. and South Korean officials, revealed the horrifying conditions these people must endure — conditions that shock even those North Koreans accustomed to the near-famine conditions of Kim Jong Il’s realm.

“IT’S ONE of the worst, if not the worst situation — human rights abuse situation — in the world today,” said Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., who held hearings on the camps last year. “There are very few places that could compete with the level of depravity, the harshness of this regime in North Korea toward its own people.” Satellite photos provided by DigitalGlobe confirm the existence of the camps, and interviews with those who have been there and with U.S. officials who study the North suggest Brownback’s assessment may be conservative. Among NBC News’ findings: At one camp, Camp 22 in Haengyong, some 50,000 prisoners toil each day in conditions that U.S. officials and former inmates say results in the death of 20 percent to 25 percent of the prison population every year. Products made by prison laborers may wind up on U.S. store shelves, having been “washed” first through Chinese companies that serve as intermediaries. Entire families, including grandchildren, are incarcerated for even the most bland political statements. Forced abortions are carried out on pregnant women so that another generation of political dissidents will be “eradicated.” Inmates are used as human guinea pigs for testing biological and chemical agents, according to both former inmates and U.S. officials.

• Day 1: Pyongyang's slave labor camps Day 2: U.S. weighs grim options with N. Korea Day 3: Is Uncle Sam still welcome in Seoul? Day 4: Refugees shed light on isolated North

• Day 1: Pyongyang's slave labor camps

• Day 2: U.S. weighs grim options with N. Korea

• Day 3: Is Uncle Sam still welcome in Seoul?

• Day 4: Refugees shed light on isolated North

Efforts by MSNBC.com to reach North Korean officials were unsuccessful. Messages left at the office of North Korea’s permanent representative to the United Nations went unanswered. Eung Soo Han, a press officer at South Korea’s U.N. consulate, said: “It is a very unfortunate situation, and our hearts go out to those who suffer. We hope North Korea will open up its country, and become more actively involved with the international community in order for the North Korean people to be lifted out of their difficult situation.”

LABOR, DEATH, ABUSE NBC’s investigation revealed that North Korea’s State Security Agency maintains a dozen political prisons and about 30 forced labor and labor education camps, mainly in remote areas. The worst are in the country’s far Northeast. Some of them are gargantuan: At least two of the camps, Haengyong and Huaong, are larger in area than the District of Columbia, with Huaong being three times the size of the U.S. capital district. Satellite photos provided by DigitalGlobe show several of the camps, including the notorious Haengyong, for the first time outside official circles. Plainly visible are acres upon acres of barracks, laid out in regimented military style. Surrounding each of them is 10-foot-high barbed-wire fencing along with land mines and man traps. There is even a battery of anti-aircraft guns to prevent a liberation by airborne troops.

Satellite image of the barracks at Haengyong.

Ahn Myong Chol, a guard at the camp (which is sometimes known as Hoeryong) from 1987 through 1994, examined the satellite photos of Camp 22 for NBC News. They were taken in April, eight years after he left. But he says little has changed. He was able to pick out the family quarters for prisoners, the work areas, the propaganda buildings. Looking at the imagery, Ahn noted what happened in each building: “This is the detention center,” he said. “If someone goes inside this building, in three months he will be dead or disabled for life. In this corner they decided about the executions, who to execute and whether to make it public. “This is the Kim Il Sung institute, a movie house for officers. Here is watchdog training. And guard training ground.” Pointing to another spot, he said: “This is the garbage pond where the two kids were killed when guard kicked them in pond.” Another satellite photo shows a coal mine at the Chungbong camp where prisoners are worked to exhaustion in a giant pit. “All of North Korea is a gulag,” said one senior U.S. official, noting that as many as 2 million people have died of starvation while Kim has amassed the world’s largest collection of Daffy Duck cartoons. “It’s just that these people [in the camps] are treated the worst. No one knows for sure how many people are in the camps, but 200,000 is consistent with our best guess. “We don’t have a breakdown, but there are large numbers of both women and children.”

BEYOND THE PALE It is the widespread jailing of political prisoners’ families that makes North Korea unique, according to human rights advocates.

SURVIVORS' TALES

Transcripts of terror • Soon Ok Lee • Kang Chol Hwan • Ahn Myong Chol

NBC News

Under a directive issued by Kim’s father, North Korea’s founder, Kim Il Sung, three generations of a dissident’s family can be jailed simply on the basis of a denunciation. NBC News interviewed two former prisoners and a former guard about conditions in the camps. The three spent their time at different camps. Their litany of camp brutalities is unmatched anywhere in the world, say human rights activists. “Listening to their stories, it’s horrific,” said David Hawk, a veteran human rights campaigner and a consultant for the U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea. Hawk has interviewed many former prisoners in Seoul. “It’s hard to do more than one or two a day because they’re just so painful to hear: horrific mistreatment - all sorts of suffering, beatings to death, executions.”

Kang Chol-Hwan is now a journalist with Chosun Ilbo, South Korea’s most important newspaper. His recent book, “The Aquariums of Pyongyang,” is the first memoir of a North Korean political prisoner. For nearly a decade, he was imprisoned because his grandfather had made complimentary statements about Japanese capitalism. He was a 9-year-old when he arrived at the Yodok camp. His grandfather was never seen again, and prison conditions killed his father. “When I was 10 years old,” Kang recalled, “We were put to work digging clay and constructing a building. And there were dozens of kids, and while digging the ground, it collapsed. And they died. And the bodies were crushed flat. And they buried the kids secretly, without showing their parents, even though the parents came.” The system appears to draw no distinction between those accused of the crime and their family members. Soon Ok Lee, imprisoned for seven years at a camp near Kaechon in Pyungbuk province, described how the female relatives of male prisoners were treated.

“I was in prison from 1987 till January 1993,” she told NBC News in Seoul, where she now lives. ”[The women] were forced to abort their children. They put salty water into the pregnant women’s womb with a large syringe, in order to kill the baby even when the woman was 8 months or 9 months pregnant. “And then, from time to time there a living infant is delivered. And then if someone delivers a live infant, then the guards kick the bloody baby and kill it. And I saw an infant who was crying with pain. I have to express this in words, that I witnessed such an inhumane hell.”

TESTING ON HUMANS Soon also spoke about the use of prisoners as guinea pigs, which a senior U.S. official describes as “very plausible. We have heard similar reports.” “I saw so many poor victims,” she said. “Hundreds of people became victims of biochemical testing. I was imprisoned in 1987 and during the years of 1988 through ’93, when I was released, I saw the research supervisors — they were enjoying the effect of biochemical weapons, effective beyond their expectations — they were saying they were successful.” She tearfully described how in one instance about 50 inmates were taken to an auditorium and given a piece of boiled cabbage to eat. Within a half hour, they began vomiting blood and quickly died. A shot of the enormous Chunbong camp from space. “I saw that in 20 or 30 minutes they died like this in that place. Looking at that scene, I lost my mind. Was this reality or a nightmare? And then I screamed and was sent out of the auditorium.” Prison guard Ahn’s memories are, like the others’, nothing short of gruesome. Every day, he said there were beatings and deaths. “I heard many times that eyeballs were taken out by beating,” he recalled. “And I saw that by beating the person the muscle was damaged and the bone was exposed, outside, and they put salt on the wounded part. At the beginning I was frightened when I witnessed it, but it was repeated again and again, so my feelings were paralyzed.” Moreover, said Ahn, beating and killing prisoners was not only tolerated, it was encouraged and even rewarded. “They trained me not to treat the prisoners as human beings. If someone is against socialism, if someone tries to escape from prison, then kill him,” Ahn said. “If there’s a record of killing any escapee then the guard will be entitled to study in the college. Because of that some guards kill innocent people.”

Newsweek: Bizarre world of women, wine and weapons President Bush told author and Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward last year that he was well aware of the camps and the atrocities. That, officials say, partly explains why Bush insisted on North Korea’s inclusion in the “axis of evil” in his 2002 State of the Union address. “I loathe Kim Jong Il,” Bush told Woodward during an interview for the author’s book “Bush at War.” “I’ve got a visceral reaction to this guy because he is starving his people. And I have seen intelligence of these prison camps — they’re huge — that he uses to break up families and to torture people.” Brownback, a senator with a reputation as a human rights advocate, thinks that the prison camps and abuses have for too long taken a back seat to nuclear arms and other Korean issues. “It seems that what happened is that there got to be a complex set of issues, and people said, ‘Well OK, it’s about our relationship with China, it’s about the Korean Peninsula, it’s about this militaristic regime in North Korea that we don’t want to press too much because they may march across the border into South Korea.” Brownback says the North’s nuclear program, its missile tests and generally unpredictable behavior has blurred a critical issue: “I think people just got paralyzed to really put a focus on the human face of this suffering,” he said.

Lisa Myers, Rich Gardella and Judy Augsberger of NBC News and Michael Moran of MSNBC.com contributed to this report.

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To: Stingray
"Ironically, the same unfinished business we lament in 50's Korea and 90's Iraq, is nothing new."

Sun Tzu in "The Art Of War" says that the enemy needs to be destroyed completely. Unfortunately, too many times this lesson is not learned.

61 posted on 01/17/2003 10:01:16 AM PST by M. Peach (Eschew obsfucation)
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To: DBtoo
I would say that the reason you are seeing this now is so that the media can say, "See, we shouldn't be attacking Iraq, North Korea is worse". What they really mean is that we shouldn't attack North Korea either. Obfuscation (sp?) is the word I believe.
62 posted on 01/17/2003 10:11:17 AM PST by cmak9
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To: DBtoo
Iraq isn't going anywhere, may as well euthinize N. Korea first. We cannot survive if we fear the nuke.
63 posted on 01/17/2003 10:19:20 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Karsus
How long till Wal-Mart and other American companies beat a path to this untaped source of labor?

.........Path is well trodden - but the sheeple dont care as long as its cheap -

64 posted on 01/17/2003 10:39:32 AM PST by Revelation 911 (Get your own habitat)
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To: Gforce11
“All of North Korea is a gulag,”

This will come as a surprize to a lot of people, mostly democrats.
65 posted on 01/17/2003 10:41:20 AM PST by tet68
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To: gnarledmaw
The Koreans are humble and very much industrious people. They live in every Russian town. They raise vegetables, flowers and cook various tasteful things to sale as street-vendors. I repeat they are very pleasant and polite people. However I can see on TV-reports another kind of the Koreans having another behaviour, who are marching in review or shout like billy. If to compare three kinds of communism - Russian, Chinese and Korean, last is worst, stupid and infernal. I've read in Russian press in early 90's about Korean labour camps in Russian territory (Far East) where Korean slaves procured felled timber for North Korean People-Democratic Republic under full control of North Korean KGB which persecuted the runaways with horrible cruelty (don't forget, it was in Russian territory!). Later, I can not hear any rumors about Korea in Russian press and TV.
Chinese and Soviet communists helped to Korean since Stalin's times. They waded in Korean war though none from them had friendly feelings to Korean leader. Why? Korean communist elite up to 1956 consisted from three kinds.
1. "Soviet Koreans" - Citizens of USSR (Korean nationality) sent to Korea for restoration of economy and having occupied various posts.
2. "Chinese Koreans" - Citizens of China etc... read 1.
3. "Crypto-Communists" - well educated and organized people, former fighters (from underground) against Japanese invasion.
4. "Guerrillas" - most non-educated and wild people. They combated against Japan by Soviet weapon and from bases in Soviet Far East which 'Soviet Military Intelligence' (GRU) has organized for them.
After Khruschev's speech in XX Communist party convention in 1956, all communist parties in the world felt a shock. They were mixed-up. Korean "Guerrillas" killed all from groups 1, 3 and partially 2 (many from group 2 escaped into the China). Since these times, Kim Il Sung and his most wild & stupid communists are reigning in Korea. Despite this USSR and China continued to help Korea with single purpose - not to allow the USA to establish democratic regime in a whole territory of Korean peninsula and to take military control near borders of China and USSR. Since these times, Korean regime exist on doles of China & USSR (Russia) despite on well known facts of atrocities. Now, China & Russia reduced a volume of help. Horrible regime must die. But Kim Jong Il and his clique try to intimidate whole world with goal to get some food, oil-fuel products for continuing their reign.
The average Koreans are good but unhappy people.
66 posted on 01/17/2003 11:56:22 AM PST by Ivan Ivanov
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To: tictoc
"...strong unpleasantly wind..."

A key portion of their attack plan to neutralize the American force. This is where catapults lob clay vessels of kimchee into our lines...

67 posted on 01/17/2003 1:26:48 PM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Karsus
A slave camp? How long till Wal-Mart and other American companies beat a path to this untaped source of labor?

Perhaps they don't have to, as many goods are probably funneled from North Korea to China before ending up on the shelves at Wal-Mart and most other American outlets.

68 posted on 01/17/2003 3:37:14 PM PST by Alpha One
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To: Travis McGee
The book is new, and the English translation is very good; it's published by Yale University Press.

Yakovlev validates everything that Conquest and others have ever written about, but he's able to quote directly from Party documents. He also gives a unique insight into how the members of the Politburo thought. In some ways it verifies what we've known or suspected, but there are other moments where some of the politics behind the scenes were even stranger than we imagined.

I'm about 60 pages into the book, and am taking a break with some "brighter" reading before I continue. This thing should be a mandatory part of any course examining Communism or Russia. Yakovlev is definitely a fierce anti-communist, but he does an amazingly good job of keeping his emotions in check, unlike Solzhenitsin.

Hey, nice book cover! When will you go to print?

69 posted on 01/17/2003 4:24:51 PM PST by Matthew James
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To: Matthew James
I hope we will be reading post-mortems on the North Korean regime soon.

I hope to have the book printed in March.

I hope.

70 posted on 01/17/2003 5:34:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (Go out and Buy Lots Of Ammo Today!)
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To: Travis McGee
I see a recurring theme here - Best of luck with the book!
71 posted on 01/18/2003 6:30:16 AM PST by Matthew James
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To: jla; Travis McGee
Thanks for the link. Good to learn that Travis is a UVA grad. Will look forward to reading it also.
72 posted on 01/18/2003 11:17:38 AM PST by sultan88 (Free Iraq Now)
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To: Matthew James
Thanks!
73 posted on 01/18/2003 1:02:03 PM PST by Travis McGee (Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.)
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To: sultan88
Wahoo Wa!
74 posted on 01/18/2003 1:10:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (***PACIFISTS ARE THE PARASITES OF FREEDOM***)
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To: Gforce11
Yep...you'll never see the likes of Hollywoodies like Schpielberg and Hanks making movies
of any American GI's killing their ChiCom or NorKorCom buddies...
Never see any 'Heros' killing commies..
Any food aid we give these bast*rds will never get to the ones who need it most....but it will strengthen our enemies...
75 posted on 01/23/2003 12:04:13 PM PST by joesnuffy
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