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To: eshu
Sorry, I assumed you were familiar with: "Holy, Holy, Holy is the LORD of hosts...". (Isaiah 6:3).

And what do you suppose that means? That means A LARGE NUMBER.

1. An army.
2. A great number.
3. A multitude.

4. Multitude synonyms:

- The condition or quality of being numerous.
- A very great number.

multitude, host, legion, army These nouns all denote a very great number of people or things. Multitude is the most general term: a multitude of reasons. Host and legion both stress impressively, sometimes countlessly large numbers: a host of ideas; a legion of complaints. Army emphasizes order and often purposeful association: an army of ants.

The point I'm trying to make here is that it would have been perfectly possible for you to make the above assertion without making unwarranted assumptions about "krodriguezdc"'s ethnic background or calling him a "sowbug."

It would. However, my assumptions are not entirely unwarranted, and I have no excess patience with people given to Cairo street, Riyadh street or Baghdad street sloganeering.

But I think we can all agree that stirring racist rhetoric into the mix here lowers

Very true. It's sad that so much bizarre, racist propaganda emanates from the Arab world. It is even sadder that so much of that racist propaganda is picked up by factions calling themselves "Libertarian" - in fact, I have over the last couple of years come to the conclusion that there are almost no real Libertarians out there.

161 posted on 01/16/2003 2:06:53 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
The point I'm trying to make here is that it would have been perfectly possible for you to make the above assertion without making unwarranted assumptions about "krodriguezdc"'s ethnic background or calling him a "sowbug."

It would.

Nice to see you admit it.

However, my assumptions are not entirely unwarranted,

Are you sure about that? "Rodriguez" sounds like a hispanic name to me, not an arabic one. Not that that should even matter! Or are all of those brown-skinned people the same to you?

It's sad that so much bizarre, racist propaganda emanates from the Arab world.

I am aware that much of the arab press is EXTREMELY racist and anti-semitic, but the point that I am trying to make to you, Cachelot, is that it is possible for YOU to debate people without stooping to that same level!

For example, when you try to guess people's ethnicities and then link these guesses rhetorically to various dehumanizing labels (eg, sowbug, vermin, etc) how is this qualitatively different from the anti-semitic rhetoric of the Arab press or the Third Reich? When you accuse people of belonging to "stormfront" on even the slightest pretext (eg., they disagreed with you about some trivial semantic point) how is this different from racists who accuse their ideological opponents of being "undercover zionists"?

Answer: it isn't & it isn't. You are guilty of using the exact same rhetorical tactics as the very worst anti-semites out there. The container is different but the content is the same! And it's a shame, because I get the impression you're probably intelligent enough to see through your own rhetoric too. It really makes me wonder what you're trying to accomplish here.

162 posted on 01/16/2003 2:35:36 PM PST by eshu
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