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To: Cachelot
The point I'm trying to make here is that it would have been perfectly possible for you to make the above assertion without making unwarranted assumptions about "krodriguezdc"'s ethnic background or calling him a "sowbug."

It would.

Nice to see you admit it.

However, my assumptions are not entirely unwarranted,

Are you sure about that? "Rodriguez" sounds like a hispanic name to me, not an arabic one. Not that that should even matter! Or are all of those brown-skinned people the same to you?

It's sad that so much bizarre, racist propaganda emanates from the Arab world.

I am aware that much of the arab press is EXTREMELY racist and anti-semitic, but the point that I am trying to make to you, Cachelot, is that it is possible for YOU to debate people without stooping to that same level!

For example, when you try to guess people's ethnicities and then link these guesses rhetorically to various dehumanizing labels (eg, sowbug, vermin, etc) how is this qualitatively different from the anti-semitic rhetoric of the Arab press or the Third Reich? When you accuse people of belonging to "stormfront" on even the slightest pretext (eg., they disagreed with you about some trivial semantic point) how is this different from racists who accuse their ideological opponents of being "undercover zionists"?

Answer: it isn't & it isn't. You are guilty of using the exact same rhetorical tactics as the very worst anti-semites out there. The container is different but the content is the same! And it's a shame, because I get the impression you're probably intelligent enough to see through your own rhetoric too. It really makes me wonder what you're trying to accomplish here.

162 posted on 01/16/2003 2:35:36 PM PST by eshu
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To: eshu
Are you sure about that? "Rodriguez" sounds like a hispanic name to me, not an arabic one

First, your handle doesn't really matter much, does it? I mean, you don't really think I live underwater?

Second, as I said, this fellows statements fall neatly into a kind of propaganda that you really only see originating in the press of a few Arab countries. It sometimes gets carried around by others, but the origin seems always to be Arabic. Examples:

There's less than half a dozen nations possessing serious nuclear arsenals (Israel being one of them), but "A host of countries are going to nuke Israel".

Or "Interstellar Space Jews are controlling Western Leaders by mind control beams from an orbit around Venus".

Or "The Mossad flew airliners into the WTC using remote control from an underground bunker in NY, with the collaboration of Bush, on the direct order of the Illuminati".

Or "The Bali bombing was really a nuclear blast, says Australian military nuclear expert who was fifty yards from it".

All these axamples are actually factual and documentable, believe it or not. Of course, this critter may be just one of the mindless ones who carry the Jihadist message. It doesn't really matter, does it? He's home where his delusions come from.

is that it is possible for YOU to debate people without stooping to that same level!

Why would I be interested in "debating" the followers of Jihad? I think they get entirely enough airing of their views, mosty irrational as they are, already :).

163 posted on 01/16/2003 3:26:22 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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