You know it is amazing what is said in this article! It should be a wake up call for politicians in California, Washington, and Oregon!
...after November's statewide elections the family didn't envision the business climate getting better in California.
In Idaho, the company's energy costs could fall 60 percent, workers' compensation costs 40 percent, and wages and benefits 20 percent, compared with here. Executives said they expect to employ the same number of people.
Duckett said the company's annual savings would be in the millions of dollars, but he declined to be more specific.
The company chose Idaho over states, such as Washington and Oregon, because it had the "best long-term, business-friendly legislative environment," Buck said.
1 posted on
01/15/2003 9:51:04 AM PST by
Robert357
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To: Robert357
The far left coast (CA, OR, and WA) are undoubtedly the last and worst place for businesses these days. The economically illiterate idiots are in charge in all three states.
To: Robert357; snopercod; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; lewislynn
I thought that you might enjoy this article!
"In Idaho, the company's energy costs could fall 60 percent, workers' compensation costs 40 percent, and wages and benefits 20 percent, compared with here. ....annual savings would be in the millions of dollars"
Yes, there are limits to what a state can extract from a business before it will leave and energy costs are included within the equation of moving.
3 posted on
01/15/2003 9:55:11 AM PST by
Robert357
To: Robert357
Buck is smart. There is no reason why a company should remain in California to be assessed the cost of welfare services and political correctness there.
4 posted on
01/15/2003 9:55:37 AM PST by
RLK
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Excellent. If you own stock in a California based company make sure you email Investor Relations and ask that they leave.
To: Robert357
My wife has two Buck Knives that I gave her. Pity the poor fellow who gets after her if one of them is in reach...
7 posted on
01/15/2003 9:59:22 AM PST by
dirtboy
To: meadsjn; Noumenon; artisan001
FYI for you boys up north (Post Falls area). May be some opportunity here for operations, analysts, manufacturing, engineering, IS, etc.
One year out is probably a good time to make contacts and get dialog going if interested.
9 posted on
01/15/2003 9:59:48 AM PST by
Jeff Head
To: Robert357
No doubt they'll pass the savings on to customers. ;-)
California is going to lose a lot more businesses like this one. Unfortunately, 'rats are willing to transform California to an agrarian economy, with no industry and with the most fertile farmland in the state environmentally roped off from agricultural use. They won't stop until they've turned the state into another North Korea.
To: Robert357
Maybe this is the beginning of the salvo? Communist Davis is intent on extracting more and more and more............
12 posted on
01/15/2003 10:03:22 AM PST by
hardhead
To: Robert357
Nothing to do with the point of the article, but... I never knew where the term "Buck Knife" came from.
I don't know what I thought it was, but it wasn't a brand name.
To: Robert357
I live in El Cajon just a few miles from Buck. I know the Buck family; we meet regularly through the East County Chamber. It saddens me beyond words to hear that they are leaving, though I dio understand their reasoning.
Energy costs for my company have ballooned by $8,000 a month in recent years. Buck's rose nearly $25,000.
Chalk another one up for the failed policies of gray davis and liberalism.
14 posted on
01/15/2003 10:05:08 AM PST by
South40
To: Robert357
Very Smart Move by Bucks Knives ! California is a tax rip off by the Dims for the Dims with a Dimwitted Governor .... They will drive all the major corporations out of the state to support their welfare voter base of very Dim voters. They are busy raising taxes across the board. Smart Californians will pull up stakes and 'jump on the bus, Gus' to move out of state .... Quickly! I mean, put the house up for sale and make a bee line for any border, but the one further South. [The Mexicans are taking over anyway .... ] Get out of Dodge! I mean yesterday ...... Adios, via con Dios!
Dim Davis will be shocked again to *discover* at the end of his second term the State of Califoria will be about $ 100 billion in the hole. All the money thrown down a RAThole to support DemonRATS ... He will be crying over all the high earning jobs and high earning people that fled the state for greener pastures. Idaho wins, CA is caught in deeper and deeper Ka-Ka ...
When Davis came into office the state was over $ 2 billion in the black. Who would'a thought ... Idiots elect idiots!
21 posted on
01/15/2003 10:11:29 AM PST by
ex-Texan
(Tag! Over to you ....)
To: Robert357
Politics aside, I own several Buck knives ... purchased over 25 years ago when I lived in southern CA. Kitchen knives, hunting knife, yachtsman pocket knife ... all still in remarkably good condition. Their knives are top quality ... something worthy of being handed down from one generation to the next.
22 posted on
01/15/2003 10:13:01 AM PST by
BluH2o
To: Robert357
"We ran the risk of giving too much notice and possibly losing people while we still needed them," he said. "That's a chance we decided to take." Yep. Another one of them eeeevil biznissmen "interested only in profit."
It's your loss California.
26 posted on
01/15/2003 10:16:02 AM PST by
Carry_Okie
(A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
To: Robert357
I have a Buck in my pocket right now...Always have, Always will...They don't make a better knife in it's price range...
I hope the move is for survival, and not for just a larger bottom line...At least they are not going to Mexico or China...That's a real big plus...
They'd best be going to Cor d' Alaine (sp)...That may the only town in Idaho with enough people to employ...:)
29 posted on
01/15/2003 10:17:33 AM PST by
Iscool
(it can be pretty painful, even if you're the winner)
To: Robert357
Plus, on top of the other savings, he's selling the plant's land for $9,000,000 and buying an equal number of acres for $800,000. Even if he doesn't get his asking price, that's a fair amount of capital to free up and put to productive use.
30 posted on
01/15/2003 10:18:36 AM PST by
Cicero
To: Robert357
Alternate Title: Buck makes a Smart Move.
32 posted on
01/15/2003 10:19:42 AM PST by
Fiddlstix
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To: Robert357
Many other companies will follow. California may be in for hard times in the very near future.
To: Robert357; anniegetyourgun
I tried for two years to expand my mail order nursery business here in Western Washington. We hit one wall after another, so my business partner bought me out and moved to Post Falls last year. He immediately hired 50 workers and will be increasing payroll again this year.
We're, (Washington State), going down the tubes. Yesterday the teachers union persuaded the states schools to close so they could go to Olympia and protest for an income tax. 25,000 teachers and useful idiots converged on the capital. I'm sure it will back fire. We've had enough.
To: Robert357
Hundreds of companies have left New York over the years for the same exact reasons yet the pols haven't waken up and Energy, Insurance and taxes have continued to rise astronomically.
59 posted on
01/15/2003 10:49:54 AM PST by
1Old Pro
To: Robert357
I'm just glad Buck decided the keep the operation in the U.S.
The way things are going it would not have been shocking if they announced they were going to move manufacturing to Mexico or China.
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