UNPLEASANT SURPRISE: Chinese Missile Has Double the Range Thought by West

NAVLog ^ | 2003 | K.B. Sherman

[spetznaz]

The Peoples Republic of China recently startled the West when a JH-7 (“Flying Panther”) aircraft (Xian Aircraft Industry Company) fired a YJ-83 anti-ship cruise missile over Bohai Bay, demonstrating twice the range of which the weapon had been believed capable. This weapon is widely believed to be part of Beijing's efforts to develop a long-range strike capability against the US Navy and the Republic of China (Taiwan) Navy.

According to sinodefense.com, the YJ-83 flies within 15 feet of the water’s surface. It is equipped with a 365-pound warhead and a monopulse terminal guidance radar possessing high anti-jamming capabilities. It uses a semi-armor-piercing anti-personnel blast warhead, which relies on the missile's kinetic energy to pierce the deck of a ship, penetrate into and explode in the ship's interior.

Defense specialists say the YJ-83, sometimes called the C-803, also has the capability to receive target information in flight. Richard Fisher of the Jamestown Foundation was quoted as saying that the YJ-83 will probably be outfitted on the upgraded JH-7a fighter-bomber. A 155-mile range would put the launching aircraft outside of the range of Standard SM-2 missile that will be mounted aboard the ex-Kidd-class destroyers recently bought by Taiwan.

[BlackElk]

Only if Red China still exists long enough to carry out such plans which God forbid.

[Rebelbase]

"Thank you Bill Clinton and all your Cabinet traitors."

Disgusted bump.

[lepton]

biikmark bump

[Enemy Of The State]

>>Those anti-ship missiles can be launched from aircraft, >>which they have plenty of. They also have several >>Sovremenny class destroyers capable of launching missles, >>and several other destroyers and frigates. They have at >>least 5 nuclear powered attack subs, plus many diesel >>powered subs for coastal defense. Additionally, they have >>facilities in the Panama Canal zone, and who knows what >>they have there. They also have a base in the Bahamas, >>and again, who knows what they have there under wraps.

I certainly share your concern, in fact you could say that there are many things about the Chinese and their tactics that alarm me. However, their so called airforce consists of vietnam era 'fighter jets' and not one of their naval ships are up to standard with those compared to those in the US fleet. Not to mention that the 'fighter pilots' in the Chinese military do not log a 1/4 of flight training as compared to US fighter pilots. If there were ever a conflict with the Chinese and it involved air power, it would be nothing more than a skeet shoot for our US pilots.

As for the panama canal, that situation disturbs me a great deal but if you think about it...who is it closer to...the US or CHina? Do you know how fast and how many troops we could have there in a short time to take control of that zone? Dont forget, the US has an obligation to "protect" the Panama canal and we arent going to let it go when it serves our national interests.

[Alpha One]

However, their so called airforce consists of vietnam era 'fighter jets' and not one of their naval ships are up to standard with those compared to those in the US fleet.

Although many of their jets are vietnam era, they are acquiring or have already acquired the advanced Russian made Sukhoi SU-27 FLANKER series and the newly developed J-10 strike fighter. They are considered to be the largest military air force in the world with over 6,000 military airplanes and nearly one million active personnel.

THE NEW CHINESE ARMY AIR FORCE

Add the fact that it doesn't take a dogfight to launch air to surface anti-ship missles, and those 6000 warplanes becomes a staggering figure.

Not to mention that the 'fighter pilots' in the Chinese military do not log a 1/4 of flight training as compared to US fighter pilots. If there were ever a conflict with the Chinese and it involved air power, it would be nothing more than a skeet shoot for our US pilots.

Apparently at least some of those Chinese pilots are US trained.

USAF TRAINS THE CHINESE AIR FORCE FOR "COMBAT READINESS" PLAAF AT EDWARDS AFB MAY 1999

As for the panama canal, that situation disturbs me a great deal but if you think about it...who is it closer to...the US or CHina? Do you know how fast and how many troops we could have there in a short time to take control of that zone?

If the majority of them are in Iraq, Afghanastan, Bosnia, other such places, how many do you think will be left to defend the United States, let alone the Panama Canal?

Dont forget, the US has an obligation to "protect" the Panama canal and we arent going to let it go when it serves our national interests.

I'd be more worried about incoming missiles from Panama and the Bahamas than any ground forces that may or may not be in Panama.

[WatchNKorea]

Yes, and a special Thank You to Bill Clinton's cohorts, John Huang, Johnny Chung, Charlie Trie and Bernard Schwartz of Loral.

[WatchNKorea]

"The sad thing is they will never face prosecution."

There is only now only One possibility left that gives any hope of criminal prosecution and that One possibility is the Outcome of the now pending Loral Shareholders case in Federal Judge Lamberths's court, Washington, D. C.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/1211.shtml

[WatchNKorea]

"Thank you Bill Clinton and all your Cabinet traitors."

Judicial Watch ^ | 11/1/01 | Larry Klayman
As of 8/08/01, United States Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton is a co-defendent in the Judicial Watch, Loral Shareholders case. This case was filed in federal court in Washington, D. C. This case formally accuses Senator Hillary Clinton, along with other defendents - of transfering technology to China. Co-defendents in this devastating case include, but are not limited to - William Jefferson Clinton, John Huang and Bernard Schwartz. This case is styled 01-CV-1715.

Hilllary Clinton -U.S. Senator- is a Key Defendent in Loral Shareholders Case ie Chinagate:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581978/posts?q=1&&page=546#546

[MissAmericanPie]

Are the chinese still in our most secret missile technology labs taking notes? Or was an end put to that?

[Eternal_Bear]

They are getting ready. We might as well too.

[friendly]

Thanks once again to the traitorous Clintons. They went from trailer trash to multi-millionires while in the White House selling missle and nuclear technology to the Chinese, with bribes laundered through phony "book advances" and "speaker's fees."

[friendly]

The thought of traitor Hillary on the Armed Services Committee is beyond toleration.

[WatchNKorea]

As for the panama canal, that situation disturbs me a great deal but if you think about it...who is it closer to...the US or CHina? Do you know how fast and how many troops we could have there in a short time to take control of that zone? Dont forget, the US has an obligation to "protect" the Panama canal.........

Chinese soldiers in the Panama Canal! LIVE Webcam! - Thread 4

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/541470/posts

[WatchNKorea]

..."selling missle and nuclear technology to the Chinese"

[Enterprise]

Thanks for the update. I wish Klayman the most success, but I am worried that he will fall short.

[spetznaz]

Are the chinese still in our most secret missile technology labs taking notes? Or was an end put to that?

The Chinese basically got everything they wanted from us ....possibly more. The biggest coup for them was probably the nuclear warhead miniturization tech, which is extremely important if you want small effective nuke warheads.

Now the Chinese seem to be looking toward Moscow as their next step for stealing stuff. They have already started getting advanced cruise missiles (more advanced by the way than anything we have ...which is a shocker). However the biggest thing the Chinese are trying to get from Russia are plans for the new Topol-M Russian advanced ICBM! That would be a major prize for the Chinese since the Topol-M is meant to evade anti-ballistic missile defenses, and hence would be great for the Chinese who do not have thousands of warheads and thus have to ensure every warhead they have has a good chance of getting through US defenses.

Who knows, we may see US nuke warheads inside Russian ICBMs in the hands of the Chinese! And those missiles would be pointed at both Moscow and Washington!

Frankenstein comes alive in all his horrid glory!

And unless something is done China will be a potent threat 20 years from now once it becomes a legit superpower .....and chances are that it will achieve super-power status much sooner than that!

By the way why do you think Russia is arming the Indians with weapon systems that are top of the line? Even the US does not give Israel stuff as advanced as what the Russians are giving India! The reason is not Pakistan but essentially China. Russia knows that it needs all the allies it can get, and hence it is developing India into a buffer it can count on should China ever overstep its boundaries (although Russia is losing since some parts of Russia already have more Chinese in them than Russian citizens).

The US needs to wake up and see that although China is a big source for trade that it is also the biggest threat that will face the West in the future. Potentially the biggest threat in history even because for the first time we will have a nation that can attack us both militarily and economically.

[goldilucky]

True the U.S. DOES has an obligation to protect the Panama Canal. However, since the U.S. has tied itself up with treaties it has now become a jumbled mess leaving the attitude from the U.S. that it could care less about obligations and especially when it involves commerce and Trading with the Enemy Act. Congress has the power to nullify the Act and treaties but has failed to do so because they are so concerned about lining their pockets that they could care less about the security of this Country at all. Security is the very least of their concern. America is nothing but a BIG dollar sign to them to be sold to the highest bidder even if it involves communist Chinese. But don't worry cause Congress will pay for their contributory negligence later....it'll be their children who will pay. Woe to that generation to come.

[goldilucky]

Larry isn't finished with the Clintons yet and it'll be just grand when he gets Hillary deposed.

[goldilucky]

Larry isn't finished with the Clintons yet and it'll be just grand when he gets Hillary deposed.

[Poohbah]

The Sunburn travels at Mach 3, and the newer Yahont travels at Mach 2 - 2.5 but carries a sophisticated guidance system supposedly impervious to ECM, ECCM, and utilizes Artificial Intelligence.

ECM is Electronic Countermeasures. ECCM is Electronic Counter-Countermeasures. The former attempts to prevent enemies from utilizing the electromagnetic spectrum, the latter attempts to defeat enemy ECM.

There is no such thing as a guidance system immune to ECM. Please do not accept the manufacturers brochure as being a fair and impartial analysis of a weapons system...