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China's "Tsushima" Anticarrier Strategy
The Jamestown Foundation ^ | 14 January, 2003 | Thomas Woodrow

Posted on 01/14/2003 11:59:50 AM PST by batter

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To: section9
Your thinking is good assuming that we had all those assets in place. What worries me is a surprise attack from China on Taiwan. It could take us 2-3 weeks to get our assets into the area.
21 posted on 01/14/2003 1:08:13 PM PST by sd-joe
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To: Mr. Lucky
Oh really.

I don't consider an accident (or deliberate) physical contact that results in our plane being captured by the enemy "losing a dogfight".
22 posted on 01/14/2003 1:12:44 PM PST by sd-joe
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To: Poohbah
Moscow recently agreed to sell China the supersonic SS-N-26 Yakhont missile, which is even more awe-inspiring than the Sunburn and, once launched, cannot be intercepted.

This shows that the author of this screed doesn't know WTF he's talking about.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

According to the following link, YAKHONT (SS-N-26) ASCM

It is not the high speed or jamming protection that makes Yakhont an advanced weapon system. It's major advantage, not too much advertised by NPO Mashinostroyeniya representatives, is the guidance system which has accumulated all the NPO experience in developing electronic systems of AI (Artificial Intelligence) enabling to fight against single warships (one missile - one ship) or even against a group of warships (a flock against a group). It is salvo launching that shows all unsurpassed tactical capabilities of the Russian weapon.

The missiles allocate and range targets by their importance and choose the attack implementation plan. The independent control system keeps in memory not only of the ECM (Electronic Countermeasures) and ECCM (Electronic Counter-Countermeasures) data, but also the methods of evading the fire of the enemy's air defense systems such as the US' Phalanx CIWS (Close-In Weapon System). Having destroyed the main target in a carrier group, the missiles left attack other ships of the carrier group, eliminating the possibility of using two missiles on one target.

More info can be found below.

YAKHONT - NEW-GENERATION ANTISHIP MISSILE

23 posted on 01/14/2003 1:15:29 PM PST by Alpha One
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To: soccer8
They forgot to put in the part about sending a diversionary force to the Aleutians to confound those dumb yankees....
24 posted on 01/14/2003 1:19:57 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: soccer8

four subs,los angeles class,can bring hell to the chicoms, the japanese lost most of the ships in WWII to a few american subs.
25 posted on 01/14/2003 1:21:01 PM PST by green team 1999
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To: Jim Noble
This has been posted repeatedly as a threat. I don't believe it for a second.

Not a threat but good targeting. The chinese military and civilian leadership is based in Beijing. A first strike should cut off the head of the enemy.

26 posted on 01/14/2003 1:31:16 PM PST by Slewfoot
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To: soccer8
Already obsolete information. The US Navy is converting the older Ohio-class SSBNs to SSGNs, each capable of firing, while submerged, approximately 300 cruise missiles while simultameously launching multiple SEAL teams in their own mini-subs. These converted subs would be invulnerable to Chinese attack. All that would be left of the Chinese Navy would be smoking holes in the water.

More detals at www.jedonline.com.

27 posted on 01/14/2003 1:38:41 PM PST by pabianice
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To: sd-joe
Our pilots lived; the Chinese pilot died. The American plane is in American possession; the Chinese plane is in the ocean.
28 posted on 01/14/2003 1:50:25 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: soccer8; spetznaz
I was interested but I only got this far before my A.ttention to I.ncompetence Deficit D.isorder kicked in...

"China has assiduously added to its military arsenal--including Russian-design high-performance ships, submarines and aircraft weaponry"

No such thing.

29 posted on 01/14/2003 1:54:36 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Spetznazio Alert)
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To: Jim Noble
do you think that a US President would kill three million Chinese civilians over the loss of a military target at sea?

We had better start thinking that way, Do you you think China is not thinking that way?

30 posted on 01/14/2003 1:57:03 PM PST by Minutemen
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To: Jim Noble
"I don't believe it for a second."

Beijing wouldnt get nuked but tactical nukes would doubtlessly wipe out China's Military Centers of Gravity.

Any attempted invasion of Taiwan would quickly become Chinese suicide.

Sinking an American Carrier without Nuking the Continential United States would be suicide. Nuking the Continental United States would be suicide.

China is simply gonna have to sit back and take it. Taiwan is gone. They will never get it back through military force. Unless there is another Democratic President.

31 posted on 01/14/2003 2:00:43 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: soccer8
> Chinese military purchases since 1996 have been devoted to achieving this goal. Two Sovremennyy-class destroyers--the Fuzhou and Hangzhou, referred to by the Chinese as "aircraft carrier killers"...

Which is crazier --
that we might see a flattop
sent to the bottom,

or that we might see
an air attack on New York
destroy two buildings?

32 posted on 01/14/2003 2:10:10 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: section9
Chris, I value your posts and your opinions greatly.

Our fleet has become very carrier-centric, for good reason-do you believe they are invulnerable?

33 posted on 01/14/2003 2:12:37 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Enemy Of The State
self ping!
34 posted on 01/14/2003 2:43:26 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: VaBthang4
If there is a Democrat president, they won't have to fight to take it. All they will need is a few untracable political contributions and ... ba da bing!
35 posted on 01/14/2003 3:01:19 PM PST by Right Wing Puppy
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To: soccer8
If it comes to war with China, we'll beat 'em in a hearbeat. All the President has to do is announce that the United States is bombing every Walmart in five minutes...
36 posted on 01/14/2003 4:05:07 PM PST by nicollo
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To: Alpha One
The manufacturer's generous use a bunch of marketing buzzwords does not mean that the SS-N-26 can't be intercepted.
37 posted on 01/14/2003 4:07:39 PM PST by Poohbah (USMC, 1983-1991)
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To: Poohbah
The manufacturer's generous use a bunch of marketing buzzwords does not mean that the SS-N-26 can't be intercepted.

Hopefully we'll never have to find out for sure.

39 posted on 01/14/2003 4:39:49 PM PST by Alpha One
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To: soccer8

Never Again Speech
Boycott Made in China
The Laogai Research Foundation

40 posted on 01/14/2003 9:13:23 PM PST by HighRoadToChina
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