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Episcopalian leader lashes out at Bush for 'reprehensible' policy (the world right to loathe us)
Newark Star Ledger ^ | 1/14/03 | KEVIN ECKSTROM

Posted on 01/14/2003 10:04:43 AM PST by Incorrigible

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To: Incorrigible
Aren't you sweet... (just kidding, really.)

I have long since made my peace with Episcopal/Anglican wackiness. I understand the African Anglican bishops are very orthodox and are increasingly hosting US parishes (thus getting them out from under the thumb of ECUSA bishops.) It's not an option where I live but it may be the only one 50 years from now.

41 posted on 01/14/2003 12:59:28 PM PST by valkyrieanne
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To: All
Evening bump
42 posted on 01/14/2003 2:54:46 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: RonF
Heck, even the RCC will formally ordain non-practicing homosexuals. In practice, they've been doing a lot worse than that.

You're right, RonF, but the big difference is that the Catholic Church teaches that homosexual conduct is a sin. It's awfully hard to figure out what Episcopalians are supposed to believe regarding sexual morals. They have become increasingly unmoored from scripture with regard to these and other issues.

43 posted on 01/14/2003 3:43:01 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Incorrigible
The Episcopal Church of the United States has gone beyond the pale. Its bishops are Apostates : they have all abandoned God and become secular humanists.

The final straw for me was when one of the Presiding Bishops predecessors denounced Gulf War I. I wonder how many collects for the President are said in parishes today? (I'm sure the good ones still do, in spite of the bishops).
44 posted on 01/14/2003 4:01:25 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Incorrigible
"Speaking Sunday at the Washington National Cathedral to mark his fifth anniversary as presiding bishop, Griswold said American reluctance to spend more on AIDS in Africa is "a manifestation of evil" and a "form of sin from which we as a nation are called to repent."

Ahhh yes, if we just give a little more money then we won't be "evil" any more, right Father?!

45 posted on 01/14/2003 4:25:59 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Clueless putz.

46 posted on 01/14/2003 7:27:47 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Incorrigible

One of the things that Karl Rove needs to think more about as the 2004 election approaches is the piss-poor job the Administration does in "zeitgeist management."

This article is merely one of dozens that the media floats every day in a never-ending torrent of anti-Bush rhetoric. This time it's an Episcopal bishop that the media wouldn't give the time of day to if he weren't criticizing Bush. The other day they found some judge in Spain. If all else fails they'll find some foreign policy expert in Hollywood to tell us about the bad karma that's coming.

There's no need to go to the Clinton model of doing something to dominate the news cycle every 24-hours, but letting these hits pile up for weeks on end without seeming to do anything isn't too smart, either.

Perhaps the White House imagines that Bush will get some licks in during the State of the Union address, and he undoubtedly will. But these seeming periods of inactivity, during which the media fires at will for extended periods, are going to be a problem if they are not addressed.


47 posted on 01/14/2003 7:50:42 PM PST by Nick Danger (The environment has bees in it)
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Late Night Bump
48 posted on 01/14/2003 9:25:32 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I'm going to withhold my comments on the picture. I'm sure they would reflect very badly on me and the way I was brought up. The comment I will make is based on the article....frickin USA hating traitor
49 posted on 01/14/2003 9:32:42 PM PST by paul51
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To: paul51
That didn't help. Anyone have an email address or phone number for this asshole?
50 posted on 01/14/2003 9:35:12 PM PST by paul51
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To: Incorrigible
Why is it that these "bishops" all have the discernment, judgment and understanding one would expect of, say, beauty-school dropouts?
51 posted on 01/14/2003 9:40:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Incorrigible
"I'd like to be able to go somewhere in the world and not have to apologize for being from the United States," Presiding Bishop Frank T. Griswold 3rd said Friday in an interview with Religion News Service."

There is a sure cure for Bishop slime on the bottom of my shoe Griswold's problem, go somewhere in the world and STAY there you loathsome chunk of dog vomit.

52 posted on 01/14/2003 9:46:05 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Incorrigible
Holy Sh*t !

These rats are comming out of all the holes now but when Clintoon bombed innocent civilians in kosovo not a freeking peep !

America, I'm discusted with you !

53 posted on 01/14/2003 9:58:53 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Incorrigible
Holy Sh*t !

These rats are comming out of all the holes now but when Clintoon bombed innocent civilians in kosovo not a freeking peep !

America, I'm discusted with you !

54 posted on 01/14/2003 9:59:14 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Incorrigible
Holy Sh*t !

These rats are comming out of all the holes now but when Clintoon bombed innocent civilians in kosovo not a freeking peep !

America, I'm discusted with you !

55 posted on 01/14/2003 9:59:18 PM PST by america-rules
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Does this guy look like a perv or what?
56 posted on 01/14/2003 10:43:48 PM PST by Jimbaugh
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To: Sam Cree
Scary, isn't it, and to think one of them was our president. Brrrrrr. Will we ever get over them? Will they ever go away and leave our country alone? Probably not. I feel sorry for the children they've raised who may or may not be even worse than the parents.
57 posted on 01/15/2003 7:57:23 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Incorrigible
"I'd like to be able to go somewhere in the world and not have to apologize for being from the United States,"

I've traveled all over the world and lived in four different countries in the last 11 years. I make it a point never to apologize for being an American. On the contrary, I go out of my way to try and debunk the lies and gross distortions that are told about the U.S. Bishop Griswald is a self-loathing, pitiful excuse for a man; he is not worthy of citizenship in our Republic.

59 posted on 01/15/2003 8:08:14 AM PST by arm958
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To: Marysecretary
Yeah, I'd forgotten about the Clintons, what a lot of damage was done just by those 2, and they're still at it.

Bad as lots of those 60's people are, I believe a large percentage of them are nothing more than the children of equally bad leftist parents. Only now that they dominate the media and education, they are making their views mainstream.
60 posted on 01/15/2003 9:48:12 AM PST by Sam Cree
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