Fantasies? Hardly. There are groups out there promoting the idea - including a college professor from New Mexico.
You can find the attacks on Pope John Paul II which reveal the anti-Catholic bigotry that underlies these border racist xenophobes with pickup trucks and shotguns playing make-believe government.
Please show where the groups on the border, or those supporting them here, have made anti-Catholic statements.
Right on this thread we have someone posting who apparently thinks that speaking English is the basic badge of Americanism
My ex-wife is half Asian Indian, half Pathan. Right now she is a coordinator for a refugee services agency. And the first thing she tells the new arrivals to do is to learn English. Second thing she tells them is to learn how to think like white males so they understand the mechanics of this country. Is she bigoted, or realistic? It helps the new arrivals to follow her advice, and it helps this country to maintain a common langauge. That's hardly bigotry, that's reality (the real kind, not your imagined reality).
That people have been politically conditioned over the last thirty or forty years not to say: "I hate Mexicans and want to kill them on sight. Good for those who do" proves nothing.
Folks who say that on FR are promptly shown the door, and, once again, the lead group down there, American Patrol, has been slimed by the SPLC - slime that is unsubstantiated, but slime that you seem more than willing to lap up.
They have learned to yap about the constitution without the ability or willingness to understand that persons, as well as citizens, are protected by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the federal constitution.
Someone trespassing on private land is committing a crime. At the moment, these groups are simply patrolling private land. Even if they were patrolling public land, there is no consitutional right to enter this country illegally (although some folks seem to belive otherwise) - and they are allowed to make citizens arrests of lawbreakers if they see fit. So they are doing nothing wrong, hence the hyperbolic vitriol spewed by you and others to paint them as racist. Truly despicable tactics, but we've gotten used to it, although we hardly expect such from a so-called conservative.
If you think America depends on either keeping other people not quite like you out of it or at least upon being rude to others not like yourself, you are to be pitied but not supported.
That's not the issue here, as hard as you are trying to make it such. The issue is about dealing with illegal immigration and its impacts. The current wink-and-nod approach around the country is just as corrosive to the rule of law (a truly fundamental American concept) as Clinton's abuses as President. The immigration laws either mean something, or the law means nothing. Race has nothing to do with it - if this country truly needs millions of Mexican laborers, then let's figure out a way to have them here legally. Better for them, and better for the law.
The conservative movement is rooted in principles and not in bloodlines; in performance and not in soil.
It's also, first and foremost, rooted in law. Since you left that out, I think it's safe to say that you're a CINO.
The Mexicans are coming whether you like it or not.
I'm married to one. You'll have to come up with another line of insinuation to impunge my motives, but I'm sure someone of your poor character will have no problem coming up with one.
As to CINO, you define conservative if you can and I will respond.
Though you do not pay attention, I have already told you that one of these border looney tune militias has a newsletter previously posted on one of these never-ending threads that attacked Pope John Paul II and the Catholic Church. The trigger was a papal statement in favor of free immigration throughout the world (he had a little personal experience in Poland with Iron Curtains) but the attack was broad. I do not collect this stuff. I read it, judge it and move on. You can believe me or not as you see fit.
SPLC?????? Whazzat?
Read the constitution. This business about borders and immigration is not a constitutional prohibition against the Mexicans entering. The Fifth Amendment say that the federal government must respect rights as attaching to all persons not merely citizens. The Fourteenth Amendment say the same as to states (in case militias or national guard are an issue). Each provides that there will be no deprivation of life, liberty or property of any person without due process of law. A bunch of good ol' boys out in the desert wearing American flag bandannas is NOT due process of law. If the law will not act, well, the law will not act. Run Tancredo against Bush in the 2004 primaries and see how far you get. In fact that is a great idea. As Dubya trounces his backside into the earth, it will make it clear to America's largest and fastest growing minority that the GOP is not the problem.
A while back, we were proud to have another CINO (as surely you would describe him) who said that the one thing we may thank God for is that we are not getting all the government we are paying for. Fellow named Ronald Reagan. Not a paranoid or xenophobic bone in his body.
You don't get to hijack the conservative movement and destroy its name.