The Starry Environmentalist?

National Review Online ^ | 1/13/2003 | Jonah Goldberg

[BOBTHENAILER]

Great post. Check this out my friends and hit your ping list. More proof of the interconnected agenda of the left.

Propagandize our children via public schools with another leftist position.

[William McKinley]

Check this one out.

[William McKinley]

I have a hunch that Goldberg isn't your favorite writer, but this piece is quite good.

[goldstategop]

Its good. Eppur si move! I think the Lomberg conviction has made the enviro wackos look even nuttier by their appearing to be afraid of the truth. Now who's afraid that global warming is not an immediate threat to the Earth? No doubt to the reputations of Stephen Schneider and Al Gore. We must never question The Accepted Wisdom. Down With The Heretic!!! And after so many centuries there will always be those who in the name of the status quo would trample upon the liberties of others. We must be vigilant to their likes as Captain Picard so memorably informed us in The Drumhead.

[Mo1]

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[moyden]

How do you know an environmentalist is lying?

His lips are moving.

[Grampa Dave]

Great article. I have postmarked it.

This sums up the Lying Enviralists very well. There is no realm of modern culture that has institutionalized the concept of "lying for justice" more than environmentalism. Even the hothouse world of racial politics, with its fringe of Tawana Brawley believers and Afrocentric gobbledygook, comes a not-too-close second to the generalized deceit of the environmental movement.

[William Terrell]

Like in the drug war, if you have to lie about evidence that represents a danger, is there really a danger?

[Grampa Dave]

My sons are in their mid 30's. We were on a trip to the Ocean when they were in the 8th and 6th grade. On that trip I became painfully aware of the brain washing done by the lying envirals.

At that tender age, they believed that the enviralists could tell the dairy farmers in Sonoma county to close up their dairies and stop producing milk. At that time they were drinking a gallon of milk a day between the two of them. There were signs up all over as we drove by the farms from the farmers to save their family owned dairy farms to the Club Sierra Nazis wanting to pass an ordinance to close the dairy farms. Our sons were all for closing the evil dairies for the environment.

The older one still remembers coming home from school after that trip and no milk in the refrigerator for two days. No milk for breakfast, and I refused to give them milk money to buy milk at the store. If my wife bought it, I poured it down the drain. The 3 of them were ready to have me arrested and hauled away for insanity.

Finally the 3 of them wanted a family conference and wanted to know why I refused to buy milk. Then if my wife bought it,I poured it down the drain.

I told them that there was no milk fairy. We got our milk from one of the Sonoma county dairies. If these nazis (my first use of the word with the enviralists)forced the dairy farmers to sell their herds and farms, there would be no milk to drink. My older son and wife got the message really quick. The older son was wrestling then, and without the milk he was having constant muscle cramps due to a lack of calcium.

It took about 12 years for the younger son to wake. What woke him up was a return to a bike trail in Oregon that he had ridden up to the snows with his mountain bike. The trail had been closed to bikes, but the elites with horses could still use the trail.

He called us and was madder than you know what. I told him, that now he knew what the dairy farmers in Sonoma county had been fighting for decades from the same enviral nazis. He is now about 98% cured of the enviral virus that he was innoculated with while in grade school.

[BOBTHENAILER]

If these nazis (my first use of the word with the enviralists)forced the dairy farmers to sell their herds and farms, there would be no milk to drink.

The pervasive nature of the sick/perverted indoctrination is not limited to ANY industry.

My kids have all seen, up close and personal, the battles I have had to fight in the oil and gas industry. Thankfully, thaat has given them a huge degree of skepticism for all things green.

The thing that most easily got the point across was, strangely enough, music. They are all in their late teens and are typical in their love of music, concerts, MTV, etc. My middle son is a drummer in a band. Any discussion of energy starts with my invitation to all musicians to power their amps with solar or wind energy. Any whining about conservation is countered by my insistence that MTV be relegated to a once a week time slot and concerts be limited to fridays and saturdays only.

That ends the discussion immediately in my favor, with the point completely taken and understood.

[Grampa Dave]

You posted, Any discussion of energy starts with my invitation to all musicians to power their amps with solar or wind energy. Any whining about conservation is countered by my insistence that MTV be relegated to a once a week time slot and concerts be limited to fridays and saturdays only.

Of course the concerts can only be held during the daytime to use solar power. The amps and other equipment can only be powered by green power solar, wind and whatever the alternative power lie of the moment is.

Great tactic.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Great tactic.

The KISS principle is perfect. The "UNPLUGGED" concerts get a little old and they easily see my point. A lot like your "no milk" tactic.

[SierraWasp]

"I have postmarked it."

Didja send it "Certified?"

G'morning Grampa. Have another cupa coffee. Did the Postmaster look at ya a little funny? (grin)

I used the idea of letting any kid my boys knew use their stuff anytime they wanted without even asking permission and no commitment of ever bringin it back to help them understand legal liability and property rights.

They were startin to get into this conservancy craze and were pist over not being able to hike where ever they wanted without first asking permission. They weren't sure why anyone should be able to own, or control property to the point of putting up "NO TRESPASSING" signs and such.

[Grampa Dave]

I'm limiting my coffee this morning as I Postmark good articles.

In a couple of hours I go in for my every 3 months of sand blasting and chiseling of the tartar off my teeth. I don't want a lot of coffee interupting the process.

Lucky me, I have a set of teeth that attract tartar like a magnet attracts iron. I use the Sonic toothbrush, two types of floss and floss several times aday with brushing with tartar removal/preventing tooth paste at least 4 times aday.

My wife and sons can go in every two to 3 years and have basically no tartar build up.

So get off my back, you postmark nanny!:)

[SierraWasp]

"So get off my back, you postmark nanny!:)"

Ok... Ok... We don't want'cha ta become a toothless ol grumpy grampa!!!

I just din't want'cha to git ahead of me in discovering excitin new features of www.FreeRepublic.com that I needed more "awareness" of!!!

Here I been bookmarkin stuff and you discovered postmarkin! Call it "FReep Envy," if you will!!!

At least with you "sandblastin" yer teeth, I'll know you have "True Grit!"

[Grampa Dave]

I will be spitting sand the rest of the day and most of the evening. An extra fine quality micro brew seems to help cleanse the area of excess sand/grit.

[Publius6961]

There is no realm of modern culture that has institutionalized the concept of "lying for justice" more than environmentalism.

I would challenge that statement.

Anti-smokers.
Both individuals and the organized sucking at the teat of the "Tobacco Settlement".

[headsonpikes]

Bumping a fascinating read.

"Eppur si muove."

[KC_for_Freedom]

Great lesson Dave. I remember when my son became a free market capitalist. He came home from school and told us that the best economy was not communism or capitalism but something else where some worked and sharred with others who were less fortunate. I told him to remember that concept because he was going to be one of those who worked and supported those less fortunate. His eyes opened wide as he thought about it.

Later when his class was talking about the evil proposal to reduce the death tax my son was the only one who reminded the entire class that most of their parents lived in a home that the sale of which would trigger the death tax, so they were talking about a tax that they were likely to have to pay. this changed about half of the class's opinion.