Posted on 01/13/2003 10:33:14 AM PST by Heartlander
John G. West, Jr. Research News and Opportunities in Science and Theology January 9, 2003 |
Recent news accounts about controversies over evolution in Ohio and Georgia have contained references to the scientific theory of "intelligent design." Some advocates of Darwinian evolution try to conflate "intelligent design" (ID) with "creationism," sometimes using the term "intelligent design creationism." (1) In fact, intelligent design is quite different from "creationism," as even some of its critics have acknowledged. University of Wisconsin historian of science Ronald Numbers is critical of intelligent design, yet according to the Associated Press, he "agrees the creationist label is inaccurate when it comes to the ID movement." Why, then, do some Darwinists keep trying to identify ID with creationism? According to Numbers, it is because they think such claims are "the easiest way to discredit intelligent design." (2) In other words, the charge that intelligent design is "creationism" is a rhetorical strategy on the part of those who wish to delegitimize design theory without actually addressing the merits of its case.
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The people who like creation assume that every presumed obstacle to evolution is proof of creation. Better put the bar a little higher than that if you intend to convince any non-believers.
I think intelligence is a bit more involved than stimulus-response.
It is a very, very low level of intelligence to be sure - but I can stand here for millennia looking at a rock, waiting for it to do something - anything - and it won't. It has no autonomous intelligence whatsoever, and it won't replicate.
Better put the bar a little higher than that if you intend to convince any non-believers.
There is no height to which a bar can be raised that would convince all the non-believers. Some will not be convinced until they come face-to-face with Jesus. But that is not the point. In K12 public schools, kids should not be taught to put faith in any ideology - including materialism.
Again, I say: tell the kids the truth, the whole truth, without any prejudice - and let them figure it out themselves.
Like how some people believe that Damballah created the world? Or how the Flute-Playing-Locust led the Souls of Men from the Third World into Ours? (Through the Sacred Sipapu, before it became a ski resort.)
Just a thought, a comparison for DNA might be a Pro-Engineering CAD Model being sent to a Rapid Prototype machine and assembled robotically.
Like how some people believe that Damballah created the world? Or how the Flute-Playing-Locust led the Souls of Men from the Third World into Ours? (Through the Sacred Sipapu, before it became a ski resort.)
You know I don't mean that. I said to tell the kids the truth, the whole truth, without prejudice. That means to give them a good understanding of the mechanisms involved, including randomness or lack thereof - autonomy and self-organizing complexity
Well, mutations provoked by researchers can be non-random, but I thought we were discussing things occurring naturally (i.e. w/o our interferance). So, if we are observing a population in nature can you predict which mutations will occur during particular time period?
Regards,
Lev
Neither is drinking whiskey and playing poker. But there are those who believe otherwise.
For a change you got something right Vade! So tell us please, what materialist school was RNA sent to to learn how to read these symobolic codes as amino acid symbols. We need to send kids to school to learn to read the symbols in our alphabet so there must have been some kind of DNA school that little RNA's were sent to.
Since evolution has been claiming it is a scientific fact for some 150 years, I think it is time it starts answering some of the hard scientific questions. Complaining that we are being nasty at poor little evolutionists does not cut it. If evolution is indeed the best explanation for life on earth then it has a lot of explaining to do.
Well Aric, you are doing better than usual! You are half right. Evolution is not science.
That's a great one! I just stole it!
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