Posted on 01/13/2003 10:33:14 AM PST by Heartlander
John G. West, Jr. Research News and Opportunities in Science and Theology January 9, 2003 |
Recent news accounts about controversies over evolution in Ohio and Georgia have contained references to the scientific theory of "intelligent design." Some advocates of Darwinian evolution try to conflate "intelligent design" (ID) with "creationism," sometimes using the term "intelligent design creationism." (1) In fact, intelligent design is quite different from "creationism," as even some of its critics have acknowledged. University of Wisconsin historian of science Ronald Numbers is critical of intelligent design, yet according to the Associated Press, he "agrees the creationist label is inaccurate when it comes to the ID movement." Why, then, do some Darwinists keep trying to identify ID with creationism? According to Numbers, it is because they think such claims are "the easiest way to discredit intelligent design." (2) In other words, the charge that intelligent design is "creationism" is a rhetorical strategy on the part of those who wish to delegitimize design theory without actually addressing the merits of its case.
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Are you implying there are such things as untrue facts?
It is not my statement it is his statement. Now, he may just be implying any old designer for the Cosmos and life. And I must admit that I am only assuming he believes the designer/designers to be intelligent.
Nothing ID or unscientific about it, and if his convergance law is proven or at least accepted by a majority of scientist, then the theory of evolution will be changed to fit these new facts and natural laws.
As I have mentioned before, if the randomness pillar of the theory of evolution crumbles, it doesn't mean the genetic research and research into natural selection will fall with it. IMHO, it shouldn't! However, I would strongly suggest a new name for the new and improved theory would be in order - kind of like Einstein's theory v Newton's.
By the way, I predict the randomness pillar will be the first to implode from the work of the mathematicians, physicists and information theorists. But the common descent pillar might be next due to the same disciplines. In that regard, there may be some additional influence with exobiology research, because if the math doesnt support a single common ancestor on earth, then the first instinct might be to look to the stars.
Nice try, but unless you are all knowing and know the end from the beginning, you are just blowing smoke with this comment.
Sounds like a creationist to me. Sure, maybe he believes God did not create man as man, but he still believes God is the creator. (Of course, this thread seems to be mostly about arguing semantics anyway, so what the heck.)
Since Professor Morris has clearly stated he believes in "God's creation", how has anyone hijacked his work? Obviously, he doesn't think any of this happened apart from God's design or direction.
True, you could take the couple of hundred biochemicals required for vision and count them one by one, thus 'reducing' the system, but without all of those chemicals, the system won't work.
Could you clarify what you mean by 'the randomness pillar'?
Thanks
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That's ok, as long as you acknowledge he believes in the facts of evolution and the scientific estimate of the age of the earth. How and by whom the universe itself was designed is up for grabs.
Could you clarify what you mean by 'the randomness pillar'?
The theory of evolution can be summarized in three concepts: common ancestor, random mutations, natural selection. The mutations may not be as random as Darwin thought.
On the one hand, some mutations may be an opportunistic (built-in capability) reaction to the environment, which creates a different environment and yet more opportunistic mutation, etc.
More significantly, the genetic code exemplifies self-organized complexity and autonomy. It includes process, conditionals, symbols and recursives all components of algorithm.
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