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To: supercat
There is little difference between the LP and the GREENIES. The LP and Libertarians in general, have far less influence on the GOP, than the GREENs have on the Dems. The Constitution Party as even less of a following and zero, zilch, nada, bupkiss effect or affect on anything whatsoever. Fringe parties serve one purpose and one purposs only ( in political reality ) and that is as a " spoiler ". That has been the history of fringe parties, in the USA and I don't see the likelyhood of that ever changing.

Those political naifs and malcontents, who imagine that their ( Conservative ? ) fringe party is " someday " going to do anything, at all, to change the GOP and / or the Conservative base, are delusional.

Having been here, for quite a long time, I can tell you that every Libertarian thread here runs the same way. It never changes and refutation has become a tiresome bore to me. The arguments NEVER change; if anything, the newbie FREEPERs, who come here claiming to be Libertarians, just repeak, ad nauseum, the same old, very tired garbage that has been said 1,000s of times before. They add nothing new and neither do the old FREEPERS, who are Libertarians.

The LP's platform states, quite clearly, that they are pro-abortion, open borders, legalizing porn ( EVEN KIDDIE PORN ! ), prostitution, gambling, the selling of ALL government roads, land, national monuments to anyone who has the money to pay for it, NO MILITARY, no public schools of any kind, and on and on and yes, on ; all without a thought to what would happen when what they claim to want, was done away with. They have NO substitute plans ; N-O-N-E and NO regard for what would happen. Consiquences mean little or nothing to Libertarians; no to the upper eschelons of the party, or to FR Libertarians.

To make matters worse, few, if any here has even a tenuous grasp of factual history. As LIBERALS, Libertarianism is all about " feelings ". Facts don't matter a whole lot, revisionistic history and cherrypicked quotes used to substanciate their positions / statements, just don't hold water; try as they may to make it so.

No, for many of FR's Libertarians, Dems are NOT worse at all. Some have repeatedly said that they wanted Dems to win and win BIG ... the presidency, both Houses and everything else. They would rather that, than have any GOP doing something that is even vaguely akin to their goals, wants, and needs. This is political lunacy and dog in the manger, juvinal thinking. They see an empty glass, when, in point of fact the glass is 1/2, or more full.

Libertarians are the enemy within the Conservative Movement !

60 posted on 01/12/2003 10:26:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You'll never find a good servant with that kind of attitude.
67 posted on 01/12/2003 10:37:12 PM PST by nunya bidness (Your ad here!)
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