To: weikel
Most Americans cannot remember when the United States was a free country. I can remember when there was very little social security, when the local county took care of the needy. When abortion was considered murder. When live-ins would be charged and hauled to jail for adultery.
When pregnant single women were a disgrace but their family would help in any way they could. This was before WW II and FDR was considered a radical socialist. Now the conservatives sound more socialistic than FDR. They argue over the degree of socialism, not the principle involved.
9 posted on
01/12/2003 2:46:56 PM PST by
meenie
To: meenie
When live-ins would be charged and hauled to jail for adultery. I'd be fanatically opposed to this.
11 posted on
01/12/2003 2:49:14 PM PST by
weikel
To: meenie
Evidently our grandparents decided Socialism (security) was preferable to Freedom (risk of failure );wonder if this is not the result of having women vote ?
I have observed women are more likely to stick in a bad situation rather than risk going it alone, although "tough" new abuse laws and programs make the man just the payor.Perhaps what we have now is the result of generations of women voting for the kind of gov't which punishes men in general and reduces the risks in dealing with the natural consequences of non-marital sex and preferring "bad boys" over solid "dull" men (who build, plan, and believe in a just God).
To: meenie
"Now the conservatives sound more socialistic than FDR. They argue over the degree of socialism, not the principle involved." - Meenie-
Well said.
You can even see some of FR's 'conservatives' defending gun control, because they blindly support socialistic drug controls, here:
Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
Address:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/820965/posts
22 posted on
01/12/2003 3:50:54 PM PST by
tpaine
To: meenie
When live-ins would be charged and hauled to jail for adultery. Really? When was adultery ever defined to include anything other than a married person having relations with someone other than a legitimate spouse? [nb: the Old Testament is even more restrictive in its definition of adultery: a married woman having relations with a man not her husband; the definition is probably sex-specific because, among other things, a man's betrayal of his wife does not introduce any uncertainty about which children are biologically hers.]
30 posted on
01/12/2003 5:21:25 PM PST by
supercat
(TAG--you're it!)
To: meenie
Most Americans cannot remember when the United States was a free country When live-ins would be charged and hauled to jail for adultery.
Keep your dumb ass false moralism to yourself.
51 posted on
01/12/2003 7:59:27 PM PST by
DAnconia55
(Can't even see an obvious contradiction, jackass.)
To: meenie
As I'm sure you know, Franklin D. Roosevelt is the one who started the biggest fire on the U.S. Constitution. A lot of problems in government today were started by his unConstitutional regime.
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