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To: nopardons
The marriage penalty tax is on two ( husband & wife ) earner incomes. This has NOTHING to do with married couples with one breadwinner; ergo, your specious, error riddled pronoucement about that, is not only erronious, but spurious.

If we reduce the amount of money that we take from those with two incomes, how do we make up the difference? I'd love to see the difference made up by reducing government spending, but I see little chance of that happening. Will removing this tax increase productivity and therefore revenue? There is no evidence that it will. Decreases in tax rates will increase tax revenue when the tax rate is at very high levels. It worked that way in the 80's because the rates had been so high in the 70's, but the Laffer curve only points to the idea of an optimum rate for highest tax revenue. If we reduce the amount that we take from those with two incomes, we must take more from someone else. The quickest way to get more is to raise eveyone's rates. That increase in rates will hurt single income families.

Extremely import thing : DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT !

Here's something extremely important for you to think about. Calling something spurrious and error riddled doesn't make it so, and putting labels on opposing arguments doesn't prove your argument right. Every billion in taxes saved by double-income families must be paid by someone. Eliminating the "marriage penalty" does nothing for the traditional family.

Here's something else that you should think about. Talking about topics on which one is not well versed is a great way to learn. However, learning requires that one listen and pay careful attention to what the other person is saying. You seem to have forgotten that lesson somewhere along the way.

At some level, I think you mean well. I even agree with many of your points. Even much of your advice seems good. Maybe I just think it's good because much of it consists of things I've tried or things that I was already planning. Maybe I should doubt it for the very reason that it seems so similar to what I was thinking. However, I don't tolerate haughty people who don't listen. Sadly, many conservatives have fallen into believing that their conservatism can be gauged by how arrogant they can be. They probably mean well, but I think it's a bad sign for conservatism.

WFTR
Bill

250 posted on 01/11/2003 10:51:31 PM PST by WFTR
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To: WFTR
Forget Laffer. Forget the whole zero sum game that you're applying to taxes. Ever hear of the defficit ? Have you read / heard what President Bush's tax cut plan is ?

Why is it right to tax a married couple, with two incomes , at a higher rate than single earners ? Do you mean to sit there and tell me that two people shaking up,with each working, are better than a married couple with two incomes ? Believe it or not, some people use the marriage tax as an excuse for not getting married.

Some two income married couples have children, dear. Some families have to have two people working, whether they would prefer to have the wife stay home or not.

You're getting huffy again. I'm not " arrogant "; I just don't suffer fools lightly and call a spade a spade. What you wrote about the marriage tax was completely erronious . It was riddled with erronious and emotional blunders. It was also specious and spurious. Facts are facts and you totaly misrepresented them and still are.

Fine, don't accept kindly given advice from someone who was willing to take the time and effort to attempt to help you. See if I care. I'm happily married ( for almost 36 years...I must have done something right ), my daughter is happily married ( her sterling upbringing and motherly advice from me , worked well. ), and I don't know you from Adam. Just ignore what I wrote you. Frankly, you weren't worth the effort, dear. ;^)

251 posted on 01/11/2003 11:07:54 PM PST by nopardons
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