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Bush May Enter Affirmative Action Case...
Associated Press

Posted on 01/10/2003 6:25:04 PM PST by RCW2001

By Ron Fournier
AP White House Correspondent
Friday, January 10, 2003; 8:56 PM

WASHINGTON –– Bush administration lawyers are laying the groundwork to oppose a University of Michigan program that gives preference to minority students, a step that would inject President Bush into the biggest affirmative action case in a generation.

Bush himself has not decided what role, if any, the administration will play in the landmark case but several officials said Friday night he is unlikely to stay on the sidelines. White House political allies are planning to intervene against the Michigan program nonetheless.

The administration officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, pointed to Bush's record in Texas and their continuing review of Clinton administration affirmative action cases as signs that the president is inclined to oppose the university's policies. Furthermore, he is likely to suggest alternatives to racial preferences that still promote diversity, officials said.

Bush is awaiting formal recommendations from Justice Department and White House lawyers before making his decision.

The Supreme Court, in its most important case this year, is expected to rule on the constitutionality of programs that gave black and Hispanic students an edge when applying to the University of Michigan and its law school.

The issue is a lightning rod both for conservative voters who back Bush and for minority voters, whom Republicans are courting.

Further complicating the White House's decision is the fallout for the GOP from the racially provocative comments that cost Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., his job as Senate majority leader. Bush denounced Lott's remarks, which were widely interpreted as nostalgia for segregation.

Siding with white students so soon after the Lott controversy could be seen as an affront to blacks.

The administration is not a party to the Michigan fight and does not have to take a position. Traditionally, however, the White House weighs in on potentially landmark cases.

Bush must decide soon. Legal briefs opposing affirmative action are due to the court Jan. 16, and briefs supporting the Michigan admissions plans are due in February.

Lawyers for political allies of the White House are drafting friend-of-the-court briefs arguing that the University of Michigan policy is unconstitutional, administration officials said.

The Justice Department is awaiting word from Bush on whether to file a brief of its own. At the least, Bush is expected to take a public stand on the matter and explain his position that racial quotas are not needed to foster diversity, officials said.

In Texas, Bush opposed racial preferences in public universities and proposed instead that students graduating in the top 10 percent of all high schools be eligible for admission. Supporters say the policy increased diversity because many schools are largely minority.

Among the cases that would bolster their argument against the University of Michigan, officials said, is a 1997 affirmative action suit that supported a white high school teacher's claim that she suffered reverse discrimination when laid off from her job. A black teacher was retained.

The Clinton administration argued that the school district's affirmative action policy went too far and could not be justified merely by the notion that a diverse teacher corps is a worthy goal.

"A simple desire to promote diversity for its own sake ... is not a permissible basis for taking race into account," the government said then.

The brief was largely written by Walter Dellinger, former head of the Office of Legal Counsel and later the Clinton administration's acting solicitor general. Administration lawyers consider at least one other Dellinger brief, a case involving a Wisconsin teacher, as further basis to argue against the University of Michigan policy.

Contacted Friday, Dellinger said the reasoning assumed that there is some role for affirmative action but noted that the tool can be wrongly used.

"The general position taken was that while the use of race is sometimes permissible in educational settings, it must be narrowly tailored and shown to advance important educational goals," he said.

In a 1995 memo analyzing the effects of a Supreme Court case over affirmative action in government contracting, the Clinton administration's Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel noted that the Supreme Court has consistently rejected racial balancing as a goal of affirmative action.

"To the extent that affirmative action is used to foster racial and ethnic diversity, the government must seek some further objective beyond the achievement of diversity itself," said the memo, largely written by Dellinger.

© 2003 The Associated Press


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To: TLBSHOW; Howlin
I have read many of Howlin' posts over the years. One would have to be completely mentally incompetent to think that she would support Jesse Jackson. It was a typo, nothing more and for you to carry on like a demented two year old only shows how untrustworthy you are.
161 posted on 01/10/2003 9:51:34 PM PST by LisaAnne (Get a grip!)
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To: Texasforever
We've settled this already. Howlin screwed up and admitted it, okay?
162 posted on 01/10/2003 9:52:43 PM PST by Fred Mertz (Are you for AA?)
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To: Howlin
I must admit, since I had no idea who the "Patterson" was whom you mentioned, I paid no attention to your second line. I'm willing to believe your protestation about what you meant, in view of that line. But I think you must admit that the most reasonable interpretation of your language was to take you to be talking about Jesse Jackson (who was, after all, the clear subject of my question.)
163 posted on 01/10/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by aristeides
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To: LisaAnne
It was a typo, nothing more ....

Is that like a bureaucratic snafu?

164 posted on 01/10/2003 9:54:35 PM PST by Fred Mertz (<---This space for rent --->)
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To: aristeides
Are you saying there was another reasonable interpretation of Howlin's words (before she came out with her explanation)?

I am simply pointing out that only 3 people "interpreted" her statement in that way. Now why does that sound like at least 2 of those people, with an ax to grind with Howlin (I don't know about you), would take that leap??

165 posted on 01/10/2003 9:54:55 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: ohioWfan
I am not an idol worshipper, and you are out of line to start your post that way.

I respect and admire the President for his integrity and his honesty, and I make no apologies for that. I do not agree with him on everything,
......
sorry I started it that way :>)

but those words you posted go for me too!
166 posted on 01/10/2003 9:57:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Texasforever
How did you interpret the language at the time, may I ask?
167 posted on 01/10/2003 9:57:42 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Texasforever
Now why does that sound like at least 2 of those people, with an ax to grind with Howlin ...

What is your source for that? You need to butt out and soon.

168 posted on 01/10/2003 9:57:55 PM PST by Fred Mertz (<---This space for rent --->)
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To: Mo1
just like I watched what happen over at the other site
......

I am just asking but which site and if its the whiners site I did what had to be done at the time which was keep the whiners busy during the election so here we could win an election with a total take over of the govt from the rats!

Yes I put on a very good show there. LOL

Here is not a show but its serious business. As you know!

And we did win as I said we would. Here I said it in the zogby thread at the whiners site I said it in a 100 threads well almost 100 and at rat sites i said it in all my posts.

I was right wasn't I? We won now lets make sure the republicans understand that and do what is right.
169 posted on 01/10/2003 9:58:10 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW; Mo1; Poohbah
MO: And if I recall she asked you to stop pinging her and to stop posting to her several times

Todd: yes she did and she was the first to break that rule by posting to me if you want the facts.

To: TLBSHOW

Please do not post to me again. I'm tired of your race baiting posts.

16 posted on 01/10/2003 2:21 PM EST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Works both ways Howlin! Anyways Bush is wrong and you know it.

21 posted on 01/10/2003 3:14 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: Paulie

This just tells me that the Republicans STILL don't get it. Jackson (by no means a Reverend) needs to be crushed, not embraced. The Reverend Jessie Lee is so right about this. I wonder if Alan Keyes will chime in on this one. Hope so.


BUMP

22 posted on 01/10/2003 3:16 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: TLBSHOW; Howlin

Howlin in effect accuses you of being a racist, but she seems unable or unwilling to criticize the racist Jesse Jackson on this thread.

Makes me wonder why she was so much in favor of sending Elian Gonzalez back to Castro's tyranny.

23 posted on 01/10/2003 3:19 PM EST by aristeides
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To: aristeides

What she says doesn't matter, she is on Jesse Jacksons side anyways!

24 posted on 01/10/2003 3:21 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: aristeides

and what I said about works both ways had to do with her comment (Please do not post to me again) LOL

25 posted on 01/10/2003 3:24 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: aristeides

I don't see why I have to criticize Jesse Jackson in order to say that TLBSHOW is a bigot.

It's plain for the world to see.

And as far as your wondering, go right ahead. I have a right to my opinions; I know that chaps your goose steppers.

54 posted on 01/10/2003 8:08 PM EST by Howlin (Right is right!)
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To: Howlin

You have white fear!

56 posted on 01/10/2003 8:21 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: Howlin

You and Bush can have Jesse Jackson as pals!

58 posted on 01/10/2003 8:23 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: Howlin; TLBSHOW

I see that once again you have failed to criticize Jesse Jackson. I wonder why.

59 posted on 01/10/2003 9:51 PM EST by aristeides
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To: aristeides

Why should I criticize him? I agree with him.

It's lying that I don't agree with. Patterson is NOT the liar on this thread.

60 posted on 01/10/2003 9:52 PM EST by Howlin (Ignore Todd Spam)
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To: aristeides

I see that once again you have failed to criticize Jesse Jackson. I wonder why.

Howlin quote of the century!

To: aristeides

Why should I criticize him? I agree with him.


LOLROF NOW HERE IS A KEEPER! WHAT A BUSH-BOT

61 posted on 01/10/2003 9:55 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: Howlin; TLBSHOW

If you agree with the racist Jesse Jackson, what possible reason can you have for criticizing TLBSHOW for being a bigot?

62 posted on 01/10/2003 10:05 PM EST by aristeides
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To: aristeides

Obviously, you don't read all his spam.

63 posted on 01/10/2003 10:07 PM EST by Howlin (Ignore Todd Spam)
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To: aristeides

LOL

SLAM THE BUSH BOT

64 posted on 01/10/2003 10:12 PM EST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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170 posted on 01/10/2003 10:02:08 PM PST by Howlin
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To: aristeides; TLBSHOW
How did you interpret the language at the time, may I ask?

It didn't even register with me. Hell I have agreed with Jesse Jackson in the early days when he was preaching self-responsibility. Look, Todd has decided to make some noise and is taking his innate need for attention to new levels. TLB I hate to say that but the only thing you are doing is becoming increasingly annoying.

171 posted on 01/10/2003 10:02:22 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: TLBSHOW
Todd... spend time with your family. Seriously. They will understand if you leave the freeping to others one night. Go take them out to dinner, to church, to a play. I think 18 hours a day in front of a monitor is frying your brain.
172 posted on 01/10/2003 10:04:38 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Texasforever; TLBSHOW
TLB I hate to say that but the only thing you are doing is becoming increasingly annoying.

Everyone to his taste, but I find it a lot more annoying when people -- unjustifiably -- accuse TLB of lying.

173 posted on 01/10/2003 10:04:47 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Fred Mertz
What is your source for that? You need to butt out and soon.

LMAO Fred you never cease to amaze me. All I have to do is to post a few of your comments on this thread alone.

174 posted on 01/10/2003 10:05:09 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: aristeides; Howlin; TLBSHOW
Why should I criticize him? I agree with him.

It's lying that I don't agree with. Patterson is NOT the liar on this thread.
60 posted on 01/10/2003 9:52 PM EST by Howlin (Ignore Todd Spam)
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There is what Howlin wrote .. to me it would seem she doesn't have a problem with Jesse Peterson .. and if you have followed the threads the last month or so .. you might understand that Howlin is a bit tired of Todd's post

He has done nothing but slam President Bush for almost EVERYTHING ..

Todd has every right not to like Bush .. but some of the stuff is out right false
175 posted on 01/10/2003 10:09:23 PM PST by Mo1 (A PROUD BUSH BOT !!!!)
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To: Howlin
What you posted incriminates yourself. And you called TLB a bigot too! You should be ashamed and apologize.
176 posted on 01/10/2003 10:09:30 PM PST by Fred Mertz (<---This space for rent --->)
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To: LisaAnne
**One would have to be completely mentally incompetent to think that she would support Jesse Jackson.**

Looks like the state hospital has a new cable modem. And they forgot to lock the doors.;-)
177 posted on 01/10/2003 10:10:07 PM PST by auboy
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To: Mo1; Howlin
Haven't you omitted the fact that that was in answer to my question about why Howlin did not criticize Jesse Jackson?
178 posted on 01/10/2003 10:10:41 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Fred Mertz
If you believe one word typed mistaken INCRIMINATES me, you're crazier than you act.

And he is a bigot. And a liar to boot. It's about time he stopped.

179 posted on 01/10/2003 10:11:06 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Texasforever
Come on tf you and I have had our fun else where once. Don't take this to an above all and mighty attitude.

Take it as stated by all.

Howlin says she didn't mean it the way it came out so ok, drop it.

The rest of us took it to mean what we said originally. We will drop it.

None of us are perfect that includes everyone posting on this thread! Well don't tell the rats over at CG. There I am am always right don't you know? LOL

Plus this thread is about AA which I would think its being derailed so as not to talk about it and that is wrong. This is the issue of the week and its only going to come up as more stories are written about.

Bush should take the stand and slam AA.

PS

I get attention just by posting and I don't go looking for it its just a given. Ask those rats at you know where.
180 posted on 01/10/2003 10:11:09 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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