[Dr Warmoose]

What I was addressing was your call to "round them all up", which can't be done and is therefore a silly idea for a solution

Can't round them up... Then why do illegal aliens represent over 25% of the US prison population? Somebody must have figured out a way to round them up. I know, we can wait for them to commit yet another crime (other than being here illegally which really isn't illegal now).

We do have welfare offices that can do some rounding up, even have hospitals that would do it if we put a bounty on their heads - that would make it attractive to the hospitals to defray some of their otherwise unremunerated costs. Heck, the school system could even assist in rounding them up. But then again, the schools make money off of illegals because head counts are head counts.

This method may not catch all of the illegals, but it would do a whiz-bang job of identifying those who come here to exploit the US taxpayer - and who, but the most ardent America hater is against that?

Though I do admire your defeatism in that you throw up the white flag faster than a Frenchman. And your sophism that since the electorate hasn't satisfied you that the problem isn't serious enough to merit draconian measures so therefore the problem doesn't even exist at all, interesting.

Sounds like you have a dog in this hunt.

[Ben Ficklin]

"illegal aliens represent 25% of the US prison population"

Do you have any stats for that?

[discostu]

Better take a reading comprehension course. What I said, repeatedly enough to show that your misinterpretation is deliberate especially since you quoted it, was:
can't round them ALL up

notice the important word "all", indicating the totality of the group being discussed.

Ah and then comes the accusations, yes Dr you've caught me, I'm a coyote and I make my fortune sneaking Mexicans across the border, the thing I fear most in this world is that we might do anything that stems the type so I spend my free time on FR supporting bad ideas to control immigration I know won't work. I also secretly work for Microsoft, the RIAA and a certain Indian software company that sneaks in programmer/ sex slave/ terrorists. Or so other incredibly stupid people on FR have accused me of.

Get real, learn to read.

[madfly]

Here is where you can sign up for Selective Service online.

https://www4.sss.gov/regver/falseinfo.htm

Intentional submission of false information using this Federal Government Internet Web site, or purposefully submitting a registration for a man without his knowledge and consent, is illegal. Persons found guilty of knowingly submitting fraudulent registration information may be prosecuted and, upon conviction, may be subject to a fine of not more than $250,000 and/or imprisonment not to exceed five years.

At the link below, employers, Food Stamp caseworkers,Low Income Housing caseworkers, INS workers, Employment Agencies, Campus Admission Offices, Personell Offices, Dept. of Human Resources caseworkers, LEO's, Public Defenders, Prosecutors, Landlords, New Account clerks at Banks, Hospital admissions, Election Workers, DMV workers, Hiway Patrolman, can log on to VERIFY (see link below) the status of young males. Very simple.

Now if an alliance or coalition, like Arizonans for Immigration Reform, would recruit ROTC volunteers or Veterans of Foreign Wars, all retired Veteran Organizations, Baby Boomers, Grandparents, College Republican clubs, Conservative Clubs, to visit employers with a laptop computer, make appointments with Bank supervisors, Landlords etc.,inform them that they might be aiding and abeting a felon, leave a poster with the SS laws (English/Espanol) this could be an effective way to change the way folks do business, and could not be considered an anti-immigration plot, since the law applies to all draft age males of all colors, and all religions. I can't see why this would not be well received if it is presented as a "suspected terrorist hunt". You know, diversity and all.

I keep rolling this idea around in my head and I know this isn't a big solution, but I'm trying to see a way. Especially when I found this online verification page that makes it so easy for landlords and banks, etc. to type in a name and SS#. There must be some way to find support for this. I appreciate any comments. This might be something to take to the local Sheriff as B4Ranch suggests. We know that the people who are pushing this Agenda 21 crap are organized and meet all the time to come up with more and more complaints against our Constitution and laws and here we have a Federal Law that hasn't been scrapped yet and a lot of American Veterans who fought in Korea, WWII, Nam and Desert Storm who might be more than willing to knock on some big doors for their country. Jackelope Breeder says there are many retired military who live in Southern Arizona. But there are retired Vets in every town that now has a problem with illegals across the country. I need a list of all retired Military clubs, lodges, societies. These patriotic folks may not all be on the internet, but I'm betting they would give us an ear. Bush want's us all to be vigilant and do community service to fight terror. I think our generation can kick ass and take names and maybe weed out some terrorists by looking at the same age group of males that flew into the WTC. If the 911 terrorists had been in jail or deported for not registering with Selective Service, instead of being welcomed at flight schools, things might be different today. Although there's not a draft, I think it's time for real Americans to go on a draft-dodger hunt, cuz we CAN.

Thank you very much. :)

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