[FITZ]

Might be time for a Mexico Plan.

I'd probably have to agree. We should be paying attention to what is going on in Mexico, the campesinos are protesting and that movement seems to be gaining strength, the PRD is somewhat leftist which should concern us but we shouldn't take the side of the elites against their campesinos either. Most campesinos are the decent people of Mexico and what the elites don't understand is they are the most Mexican and not all will be eager to leave their lands and go stand in some California Home Depot parking lot begging for a job ---even if they can make a bit more money if they do. I really don't understand why the Mexican government has declared war on it's rural people but it goes back to Salinas who was pretty open about getting rid of these people.

[discostu]

I think it spins off from their "Indian problem", there's been a semi-revolution going on in Southern Mexico for as long as I can remember, mostly driven by their native Indian population (whom Mexico has a long tradition of treating like crap, and of our Indians that think we don't treat them well need to review the history of southern Mexico). Also I think it's just endemic to liberalism (remember they've been a largely socialist country for a long time), look at how our own leftists talk about "fly over country". Something about city liberalism just makes people hate the providors of their food. Makes no sense to me, but then neither do most other aspects of liberalism so why should this be any different.