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To: discostu
We can definitely seal the border. Depending on the terrain I can seal 2-5 miles of border by myself. I do it almost every day. With the technology we have available such as RVS cameras and sensors sealing the entire southern border could be definitely be done. Getting rid of all or most of the illegals in this country can also be done. If we can send a man to the moon we can do something that is infinitely easier to do such as rounding up all the illegals. The Border Patrol started doing a great job during the LA riots. And as usual during that time, when you were too effective at catching illegal aliens you were told to stop.
109 posted on 01/10/2003 9:37:56 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin
Here's the basic problems:
A - much of the terrain sucks; rough, nasty, hot, poison animals, and suprisingly low visibility (creosote bushes which are the most common flora around these parts seem to be designed by God to hide stuff, they grow about 7 feet tall and 8 feet around, are nearly impossible to see through and like to grow in lose clusters you can walk through if you don't mind a couple of scrapes), canyons, rivers, mountains, the tail end of Death Valley
B - man power, to man a station 24/7 and be able to deal with sick time and vacation and such takes 5 people (business 101), so even assuming 1 person can seal 2 miles of border (which I seriously doubt, but I'll give it to you because I'm a nice person), the border is about 2000 miles long, that's 1000 stations, 5000 men... then you've got support personel, you can't just have 5000 people strewn across the border, they're gonna need some place to stay, something to eat, and somebody to man their station when they're hauling bad guys in (business 101 doesn't contemplate having to leave a station during the accomplishment of duties)
C - sensoring equipment is nice, but it's only as good as your area of coverage and your distance of response, if the bad guys leave the coverage area before somebody shows up to aprehend them all the equipment accomplished was to get a headcount
D - getting a man on the moon is a hell of a lot easier than figuring who of the 280+ million people in this country are here legally, America is still big into freedom, if we had "papers" we showed all the time like the USSR it would be easy, but we don't, now it's hard; add to that the fact that we don't actually know how many illegals are in the country much less who the are or where they might be in this rather large country (2000 miles of border with Mexico, about the same for our north south distance, about twice as much for the Canadian border, multiply which ever of those numbers you need to get the area... it equals a hell of a lot of square miles), contrary to popular opinion they aren't all clustered on the southern border, Chicago has one of the largest Mexican populations in the country I'm betting not all of them are legal
F - I'll agree fully that we hinder the Border Patrol and they SHOULD be allowed to do a better job, but that better job cannot result in a sealed border, just ain't gonna happen

Night all.
E - I haven't heard of the Border Patrol doing anything during the LA riots, given that the problem was balck people and LA isn't on a border doesn't seem to be a lot of reason to bring them in
113 posted on 01/10/2003 10:00:14 PM PST by discostu (Life sucks, humans are fallible, feces occurs... deal)
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To: Ajnin
Roger that, Ajnin.

If our government had any cojones, we could seal off Cochise County in a matter of hours.

Fort Huachuca is only 8 miles north of the border. It is the home of the Army Intelligence School. The border could be turned into a giant live environment tactical exercise in minutes.

First, launch the unmanned aerial vehicles. Let them use video during the day and infrared at night. Have the signals intelligence guys take their communications nets apart, then jam them at will. Give the analysts free rein to map the battlefield down to the last shrubbery. Set up dedicated comms to the Border Patrol and the illegals would be walking out of the brush and directly on to the buses back to Mexico. Let the interrogators sort out nationalities and flag those in need of further scrutiny.
114 posted on 01/10/2003 10:09:54 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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