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Retailers Report Worst Holiday in Decades
Associated Press ^

Posted on 01/09/2003 10:58:47 AM PST by RCW2001

NEW YORK - The already disappointing holiday shopping season turned out to be even more dismal than anyone anticipated. The nation's retailers released weaker than expected sales figures Thursday, confirming that the just-ended season was the worst in decades.

Even usually strong retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Kohls Corp. and Target Corp. suffered amid economic uncertainty, a short season and a lack of must-have items.

Department stores and many mall-based apparel stores, particularly Talbots Inc. and AnnTaylor Stores Corp., also languished.

But there were some pleasant surprises: Resurgent Gap Inc. and J.C. Penney Co. Inc. extended their comeback. And teen retailers Hot Topic Inc. and Pacific Sunwear of California Inc. whose results at stores opened at least a year, known as same-store sales, well exceeded Wall Street's expectations.

Same-store sales are considered the best indicator of a retailer's health.

Throughout December, many of the nation's merchants were continually reducing their sales targets and predicting disappointing sales for the season, but Michael P. Niemira, vice president of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd. was surprised Thursday at how widespread the declines were.

"This certainly can be characterized as a weak season," said Niemira, noting that 51 percent of the 82 stores he tracks registered sales declines in December.

The company's same-store sales tally was up only 1 percent for December, far below his estimate of 2 percent to 2.5 percent.

That means that same-store sales for the combined November and December period, which accounts for almost 25 percent of retailers' annual revenues, rose only 0.5 percent. That confirms that the holiday 2002 season is the weakest since at least 1970, when the index began to track same-stores sales data.

Niemira and other analysts don't believe consumer spending will improve in the short-term.

"I think in the near term, there will be a continuation of a struggle in the retail industry," said Niemira, noting that the possibility of war in Iraq and the nation's shaky economy will remain obstacles this year.

The disappointing news from merchants followed a more upbeat announcement by the Labor Department (news - web sites) that new claims for unemployment benefits dipped last week, a sign that layoffs may be leveling.

For the work week ending, Jan. 4, jobless claims fell by a seasonally adjusted 19,000 to 389,000, the lowest level since Dec. 21. The decline came after new applications for unemployment benefits increased by 19,000 the week before.

Still, analysts say consumers are nervous about their jobs, and consequently will continue to scour stores for the best deal.

"There is still a great deal of conservatism among consumers," said Gregg Clark, vice president of retail at Cap Gemini Ernst & Young.

Gap, whose business started to recover in October following a prolonged slump, did surprisingly well with a 5 percent gain in same-store sales. That beat Wall Street expectations of a 3.6 percent increase.

Total sales were up 10 percent.

Wal-Mart reported same-store sales were up 2.3 percent, below Wall Street's already reduced estimate of a 2.6 percent gain. Last month, Wal-Mart had earlier pulled back from its projection of a same-store sales increase of 3 percent to 5 percent for December.

Total sales were up 9.5 percent. The discounter said inventory is at slightly higher levels than the company would like but is still manageable.

Target said same-store sales were down 0.3 percent, in line with reduced Wall Street expectations for a 0.4 percent decrease. The results were well below Target's original projection of a 3 percent to 5 percent gain.

Total sales at Target were up 7.6 percent.

Kohl's reported a modest 3.3 percent same-store sales gain in December, far below the 6 percent increase Wall Street anticipated. Total sales were up 19.4 percent.

Here are selected same-store sales for December for other leading retailers:

_AnnTaylor, same-store sales were down 14.6 percent; total sales declined 7.8 percent.

_Federated Department Stores Inc., same-store sales slipped 2.6 percent; total sales were down 0.8 percent.

_Hot Topic, same-store sales were up 10.6 percent; total sales increased 36 percent.

_Pacific Sunwear of California, same-store sales gained 16.1 percent; total sales were up 28.7 percent.

_ Penney, same-store sales at department stores were up 4.7 percent; total sales were up 0.6 percent.

_ Limited Brands, same-store sales were unchanged; total sales were up 4 percent.

_ Sears, Roebuck and Co., same-store domestic sales were down 4.6 percent; total sales declined 2.6 percent.

_ Talbots, same-store sales were down 9.1 percent; total sales decreased 3 percent.


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To: Quilla
Probably SUV'S to park at Huffingtons manse.
41 posted on 01/09/2003 1:08:13 PM PST by Napoleon Solo
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To: Dave S
My clients are hurting and as a result my business is off more than a third from last year.

Just found your comment to a previous poster. I am sorry for your economic troubles this year. I hope that next year is much better for you and your customers. But as I am not (as far as I know) responsible for your bad fortune, could you please try and tone down the attitude. Thanks in advance.

42 posted on 01/09/2003 1:10:05 PM PST by asformeandformyhouse
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To: ThomasJefferson
I agree. The holiday season has become so damn commercialized, it's really sickening. We spent as little as possible, and still have a big gathering with lots of good food.

Watching commercials where the husband or wife pulls back the curtains on Christmas morning and there is a $60,000 car sitting in the driveway with a bow on it for their spouse was way to much. We just laughed at them........

43 posted on 01/09/2003 1:15:14 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: RCW2001
It was the worst holiday in decades at my store at least. We need to get Iraq over with but it may be too late for my income. I hope spring comes early
44 posted on 01/09/2003 1:16:58 PM PST by Nov3
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To: RCW2001
C'mon people, consume more! Spend, buy, consume, throw away, spend, buy, consume, throw away! The future of the civilization is in your hands! Let's start having another Xmas or two every year! Christmas has lost its religious meaning anyway! Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz!
45 posted on 01/09/2003 1:20:40 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Nov3
I personally hate shopping, malls, stores, etc. But I can tell you, now is a good time for me to go, as they are almost all ghost towns. I went to several yesterday, in the middle of the day, and all were just about empty, with clerks just standing around.......
46 posted on 01/09/2003 1:25:40 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Quilla
GM Projects 2003 Profit Will Fall Below 2002 Results

General Motors expects 2003 industry sales to be down modestly in the North American and European markets at 19.4 million units and 19 million units, respectively.

http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030109/1125000487_2.html

47 posted on 01/09/2003 2:27:06 PM PST by Afronaut
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To: RCW2001
The company's same-store sales tally was up only 1 percent for December, far below his estimate of 2 percent to 2.5 percent.

In other words, "I made more money than I did a year ago, but since it wasn't as much as I had hoped for, it was a very bad showing--even though the increase last year was seen as good back then."
48 posted on 01/09/2003 2:29:08 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Dave S
"What do you do for a living other than shop? If you were out there as an entrepreneur or in sales you would know that things arent as optimistic as you seem to think. Perhaps you're living off Social Security and your savings, so you can just sit back and bitch about those that say the economy is tough. If you were in a competitive segment of the economy you would know things suck. My clients are hurting and as a result my business is off more than a third from last year."

Wow, it's Mr. Carper and his Usenet flames.

I sell telephone equipment online, I own the company. December was down some, but there are other reasons than "consumer confidence" for it. One was the calendar, which made it all too easy for people to just blow off the last couple of weeks of December. Having a pair of holidays fall on consecutive Wednesdays will do that. In my industry, decision makers weren't "postponing buying," they just flat weren't in the office at all. The calendar tricks gave kids from Dec. 19 thru Jan 6 as Christmas vacation, which is longer than normal. Oddly enough, December 19 was my last good day of the month. People just took off.

A second factor in my own business was that people bought their goodies from me in NOVEMBER, unsure of how they'd get everything installed in December, once again due to the weird calendar.

If things were as bad as you say, the doldrums would be continuing now, but things are now back at Nov. levels again. But my fortunes are not tied directly to consumer spending, since I'm business-to-business. Sure, bad retail doesn't help me, but it's not as bad as the media is painting it.

Michael

49 posted on 01/09/2003 2:48:37 PM PST by Wright is right!
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To: asformeandformyhouse
For these companies to expand they must feel that something positive is happening.

Yes, they thought a normal recovery would have started by the second half of 2002. They were wrong. Now they suffer, or should I say there employees suffer.

50 posted on 01/09/2003 4:09:41 PM PST by Dave S
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To: asformeandformyhouse
Why do you insist on taking a holier-than-thou attitude

So screaming about media bias and how the reporters are getting it all wrong and you know better than they, better then Wall Street, better than the retail management...thats not taking a holier than thou attitude. Well shucks, learn something new every day.

51 posted on 01/09/2003 4:13:04 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Paulus Invictus
Wal-Mart claims they had their best quarter ever althought the article names them as having a disappointing sales season. How can that be?

Perhaps they sold more unit than they had in the past. Boy thats great isnt it.

52 posted on 01/09/2003 4:14:31 PM PST by Dave S
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To: aruanan
The company's same-store sales tally was up only 1 percent for December, far below his estimate of 2 percent to 2.5 percent.

In other words, "I made more money than I did a year ago, but since it wasn't as much as I had hoped for, it was a very bad showing--even though the increase last year was seen as good back then."

Sales are not the same as profit. You could sell more product than you did the year before but if you had to give it away in order to get it to move, your profit is down, not up.

53 posted on 01/09/2003 4:18:53 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Dave S
Sales are not the same as profit. You could sell more product than you did the year before but if you had to give it away in order to get it to move, your profit is down, not up.

True, but in this case that's not what they were talking about. This year they weren't giving it away in order to get it to move.
54 posted on 01/09/2003 4:30:51 PM PST by aruanan
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To: RCW2001
These figures appear to be "walk-in" sales.
There is no mention nor do they ever tie in internet sales with these figures.

Internet sales are up 20-24% over last year from the period of 11/01-12/31.

"walk-in" sales are decreasing regardless of season. Internet sales are increaseing regardless of season

it's time to stop the flim-flam, make 'em say what we want 'em to say, figures accounting&announcing practices.
It's time to to combine ALL sales, from ALL sources, to determine accurate data.
55 posted on 01/09/2003 5:10:07 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: Dave S
So screaming about media bias and how the reporters are getting it all wrong and you know better than they, better then Wall Street, better than the retail management...thats not taking a holier than thou attitude. Well shucks, learn something new every day.

No, it's called an 'opinion'. Which is what most people offer on these threads. And I haven't 'screamed' anything, just offered my take on the liberal-bias and their every attempt to bash a republican administration over this issue by one-sided reporting. My mother used to say that people should 'disagree without being disagreable'. Maybe that's what you should learn this day.

56 posted on 01/10/2003 5:54:15 AM PST by asformeandformyhouse
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To: asformeandformyhouse
My mother used to say that people should 'disagree without being disagreable'. Maybe that's what you should learn this day.

Okay, I'll admit that last sentence I wrote sounds like a holier-than-thou attitude. Sorry. But the point is still valid.

57 posted on 01/10/2003 5:59:23 AM PST by asformeandformyhouse
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To: asformeandformyhouse
I was looking for the short season thing. Yes, it is important to compare apples to apples. Hmmm. . .wonder if the lamestream media would . . .never mind.
58 posted on 01/10/2003 6:04:50 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Edwards sucks.)
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To: RCW2001
Out heah in rural VA buggy whip sales were up at the General Store.

Lots of Mennonites in my area.


BUMP

59 posted on 01/10/2003 6:07:01 AM PST by tm22721 (Those without a sword can still die upon it.)
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To: Dave S
Only one comment to this...

if the season is "short", consumers may well begin purchasing "before" the season officially begins. These sales would not be reported as "seasonal" and are thus "lost".
60 posted on 01/10/2003 6:26:53 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (We the personalities of the United States . . . (don't want to leave out the Schizoids))
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