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To: Steve_Seattle; Matchett-PI
The difference is, that as a Protestant, if I find that my pastor (or any member) is engaged in sexual immorality, I can assemble the church and invoke 1 Co 5 if needed to solve the problem. I don't have to endure it for years while friends of the predator protect him and then threaten me with excommunication if I try to either expose it or move to another church.
28 posted on 01/09/2003 9:05:30 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
"threatened with excommunication"

I have never in my life heard of anyone threatened with excommunication for reporting priestly sexual misconduct. As far as "rampant sexuality" is concerned, it seems to me that the vast majority of this started in the mid-1960s. The Catholic clergy began to be educated in regular colleges rather than seminaries, mingling with young non-religious students, nuns often began to live alone in apartments, and they were taken-in by the permissiveness of the times. Above all, they had an inferiority complex with regards to the liberal circles they were now moving in, and they often felt they had to prove how "with-it" they were by ridiculing traditional Catholic sexual morality. I know for a fact that the same tendencies were there in liberal Protestant churches, it was all one big party. And today there are no bigger promoters of legalized abortion than the mainline Protestant churches.
61 posted on 01/09/2003 10:31:39 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: CCWoody
friends of the predator protect him and then threaten me with excommunication if I try to either expose it or move to another church.

Nobody has been "threatened with excommunication" for such things to my knowledge, but, if they have, the person doing the threatening was shooting blanks. Those things are governed by actual written laws and formal procedures; we don't just make them up as we go.

121 posted on 01/09/2003 11:25:05 AM PST by Campion
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To: CCWoody
And,you know for sure that the minister,who is replacing the miscreant,from across the country is above reproach? You people ought to stop fooling yourselves. Liars and cheats don't tell the truth and we have come to a place in this country where a handshake after a deal is worth about nothing because when you are looking out for numero uno,sometimes you just have to fudge about things.Our society needs to look at itself with hard,cold eyes,it is not a pretty picture.
246 posted on 01/09/2003 5:54:51 PM PST by saradippity
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To: CCWoody
The difference is, that as a Protestant, if I find that my pastor (or any member) is engaged in sexual immorality, I can assemble the church and invoke 1 Co 5 if needed to solve the problem.

Like Jim Bakker?

247 posted on 01/09/2003 5:58:53 PM PST by Senator Pardek (I luv crackpots)
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