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Sex runs rampant in the Catholic Church
Capitol Hill Blue ^ | January 9, 2003 | DOUG THOMPSON

Posted on 01/09/2003 7:54:21 AM PST by arj

Recent revelations that at least 40 percent of Catholic nuns in the United States are victims of sexual abuse are just part of a growing sex scandal in the Church that goes far beyond the abuse of young boys by priests.

Capitol Hill Blue has learned that internal investigations by the Church have uncovered massive evidence of frequent sexual activity by both nuns and priests (often with each other), use of Church money to pay for abortions for pregnant nuns and a “casual and tolerant attitude towards sexual activity among Church leaders.”

Details of the investigations are a closely guarded secret of the Church hierarchy, but sources tell CHB that the results are being closely studied by Vatican officials who express “shock and outrage” at the high levels of sex involving priests and nuns.

“For God’s sake, this is the Church. It is not a bordello,” exclaimed one priest involved in the investigation. “This is a crime against God.”

In interviews with current nuns and priests, as well as with a number of clergy who have left the church, a disturbing portrait of immoral activity within Church walls emerges, including:

--Priests who regularly have sex with female parishioners. According to two sources, as many as 5,000 priests in the U.S. have been discovered to have had affairs with parishioners.

--At least 34,000 nuns who admit sexual abuse or activity.

--Frequent sexual contact between priests and nuns. The investigations are said to have found “dozens” of cases where nuns who became pregnant from these affairs had abortions paid for out of Church funds (even though the Church opposes abortions).

--Hundreds of confirmed reports of lesbian sexual encounters among nuns as well as homosexual contact between priests.

--Hundreds of cases where priests and nuns leave the Church and marry shortly afterwards, many having children conceived while they were still Church clergy.

“You are dealing with human beings with human failings,” admits Jonathan, an ex-priest who left the Church years ago and married a former nun. Their oldest child was conceived during an affair when both were still in the Church. Jonathan agreed to be interviewed only on condition that neither his last name nor his wife’s name be used for this article.

“Yes, we both took vows of chastity but we broke those vows,” he says. “We weren’t the only ones. I knew several priests in my diocese who broke their vows as well. My wife knew many nuns who violated their vows.”

Jonathan says stories about rampant sexual activity among priests and nuns circulated in the Church for years but that Catholic leaders looked the other way.

“There were two hypocrisies at work,” he says. “One because some of the Church leaders were, themselves, unfaithful to their vows and the other because everyone knew the damage to the church if this ever became public.”

Only when confronted with the revelations last year of widespread abuse of children and the subsequent cover up has the church taken a closer look at the sexual activity.

"The bishops appear to be only looking at the issue of child sexual abuse, but the problem is bigger than that," says St. Louis University researcher Ann Wolf, one of those who authored the study on widespread sexual abuse of nuns. "Catholic sisters are being violated, in their ministries, at work, in pastoral counseling."

St. Louis University conducted a national survey of nuns in 1996 but the Church-affiliated school never publicly released the results. The study, paid for by several of the nun orders, was turned over to the Church. Wolf and the other researchers found 34,000 nuns who had been either sexually abused or engaged in sexual activity.

“What they found were those who admitted it,” says Jonathan. “There were, and are, many others.”

Jonathan admits his wife was not his first sexual partner while he wore the robes of priesthood. He had affairs with female parishioners and other nuns.

“It was all done with a wink and a nod,” he says. “Just about everybody knew what was happening but nobody wanted to do anything about it.”

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops claims to know nothing of the studies and refuses to comment on the specifics of this article. Phone calls to various Catholic officials and Vatican offices were not returned.


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KEYWORDS: anticatholichatred; bs; catholicbashing; catholicchurch; catholiclist; priests; religion; scandal; sex
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To: eastsider
This is more bunk but with regards the 34% of nuns that were sexually abused,it doesn't say when. If you want to count every male who bumped one's breast or patted one's fanny,I would imagine that 90% of all females have had that experience more times than once in their life. This is truly a pathetic attempt to make a mountain out of a molehill.

I am very suspicious of the glut of this kind of information because I think the enemy is working overtime to overload society with this kind of drivel. Then shortly people will get so tired of information,the ilk of this piece of crap,they will say "who gives a dam" and presto,the enemy has what they want. They will claim that nobody cares except a few uptight,antedeluvian,rigid religious freaks.

They will say sex is common,sex is good,sex is healthy for men,women,children,relatives and animals,whether they are dead or alive.And,furthermore since it is all those things everybody should do whatever they want,any time they want with whomever they want.Then the trap will close over us and man will become an enslaved animal,and those who would be "gods" will have all of these animals to train,think about it.

According to a German sociologist named Reich,who did research in the twenties in Germany,if you can sexualize a child before puberty you can be assured that there spirit will be closed to God and religion.The perfect plan.

241 posted on 01/09/2003 5:36:08 PM PST by saradippity
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To: saradippity; eastsider
34,000 not 34%.It was 40%,sorry.
242 posted on 01/09/2003 5:38:55 PM PST by saradippity
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To: Aliska
"I don't doubt that it has happened but I don't trust the survey either."

Are you saying that those nuns who responded are lying?

243 posted on 01/09/2003 5:46:21 PM PST by marajade
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To: philosofy123
Obviously,you are neither smart nor holy since you cannot imagine that others could be anything but just like you. While many may be like you,countless others have thought things through and know there are other ways to live one's life and may choose "the road less travelled".
244 posted on 01/09/2003 5:47:57 PM PST by saradippity
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To: Steve_Seattle
"I have never in my life heard of anyone threatened with excommunication for reporting priestly sexual misconduct."

That's because it doesn't happen. They think by being a priest they have special status with God so they don't have to.
245 posted on 01/09/2003 5:52:05 PM PST by marajade
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To: CCWoody
And,you know for sure that the minister,who is replacing the miscreant,from across the country is above reproach? You people ought to stop fooling yourselves. Liars and cheats don't tell the truth and we have come to a place in this country where a handshake after a deal is worth about nothing because when you are looking out for numero uno,sometimes you just have to fudge about things.Our society needs to look at itself with hard,cold eyes,it is not a pretty picture.
246 posted on 01/09/2003 5:54:51 PM PST by saradippity
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To: CCWoody
The difference is, that as a Protestant, if I find that my pastor (or any member) is engaged in sexual immorality, I can assemble the church and invoke 1 Co 5 if needed to solve the problem.

Like Jim Bakker?

247 posted on 01/09/2003 5:58:53 PM PST by Senator Pardek (I luv crackpots)
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To: Aliska
" ... but how many women do you know who have four different kids by four different fathers ending up in a good marriage?"

I know a woman who has four kids with three different fathers now married to my brother in law with no kids between them in a good marriage. Does that count?
248 posted on 01/09/2003 6:02:48 PM PST by marajade
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To: crystalk
"Peter knew he could never do that and properly care for a wife as well. So he divorced her ..."

Huh?
249 posted on 01/09/2003 6:04:12 PM PST by marajade
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250 posted on 01/09/2003 6:04:31 PM PST by Bob J
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To: sinkspur
I'm almost certain that Peter wasn't the only apostle that was married...
251 posted on 01/09/2003 6:05:26 PM PST by marajade
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To: sinkspur
Many men and women commit suicide when a relationship goes bad. Their death causes much sadness for those who cared about them. Stop being so cavalier about the consequences of sex outside of marriage,look objectively beyond yourself.
252 posted on 01/09/2003 6:06:28 PM PST by saradippity
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To: saradippity
Many men and women commit suicide when a relationship goes bad. Their death causes much sadness for those who cared about them. Stop being so cavalier about the consequences of sex outside of marriage,look objectively beyond yourself.

What on earth are you ranting about? Where have I been cavalier about sex outside of marriage?

People who commit suicide over a soured relationship are mentally ill, and could likely have not sustained a relationship to begin with.

253 posted on 01/09/2003 6:12:04 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Bluntpoint
You don't know what we have but if they actually take a look,they would probably find our abusing priests are a smaller per centage of the total population of priest than the per centage of abusers in any other category of population.
254 posted on 01/09/2003 6:12:32 PM PST by saradippity
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To: marajade
I'm almost certain that Peter wasn't the only apostle that was married...

I'm with you.

255 posted on 01/09/2003 6:14:58 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: marajade
Does that count?

That'll work. I'm always gladdened when people manage to make things better for their lives. I just can't think of any cases like that in my experience.

256 posted on 01/09/2003 6:15:32 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Petronski
Then you and others like you still in should fight. I left long ago and would never go back considering all of the leftist influence now rotting the church away. On the other hand, concerning all of these hateful fundamentalist "Left-Behinders"... well I can't wait for the rapture, so all of their self-righteous, ignorant arses are off the planet.
257 posted on 01/09/2003 6:15:59 PM PST by StockAyatollah
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To: Bluntpoint
I would have to agree,after seeing that positively swishy,smarmy,oh-so affected archbishop on TV a few times.What a piece of work,he is also a liar.The two traits are often found together I've noticed.
258 posted on 01/09/2003 6:17:31 PM PST by saradippity
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To: marajade
Are you saying that those nuns who responded are lying?

No, I am not saying that. Maybe they asked the wrong nuns. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It probably does. But I don't trust studies any more.

259 posted on 01/09/2003 6:22:14 PM PST by Aliska
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To: StockAyatollah
concerning all of these hateful fundamentalist "Left-Behinders"... well I can't wait for the rapture, so all of their self-righteous, ignorant arses are off the planet.

I think we should revoke the driver's licenses of these soon-to-be-taken-away-in-the-clouds folks.

I don't want to be driving around when a car keeps running after its driver is gone.

260 posted on 01/09/2003 6:22:35 PM PST by LO_IQ ("In case of rapture this car will be unmanned")
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