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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Speculation on my part, just like on those trying to portray the witness as a dishonest framer. However the rest of her statements have checked out, and nothing has really been put forth on why she would intentionally lie and setup this family. Again, if the two cars were not speeding, how would she know that there were another car traveling with the one that lost the wallet?"

Well you stated that 110 mph was an exageration and accused me of ignoring that. Seems to me if she exagerated the 110 mph whe was less than credible in her reporting. That is one of her statements and it did not checkout, despite your supposition. Ok so you think Grandma and Grandpa were speeding too, why weren't they stopped? Looks like two cars were just as suspicious in this imaginary crime. THP had apparently looking for the vehicles for close to an hour! The THP followed the car for miles before they pulled it over and should or did compute the distance and time the vehicle covered from the report, estimating its speed. Since they didn't ticket it for speeding, I guess they didn't witness it speeding either?

So suspicion was aroused, mere suspicioun does not rise to the level of probable cause. What crime was supposed to have been committed, littering money on the highway? Speeding is an infraction not a felony.

Appears to me both the THP and Cokeville are used to making seizures and might have thought they had a drug/vehicle seizure to boost their depts income. (See the Cokeville PD Auction site) Since 80% of property seizures don't result in charges being filed, probable cause seems to have gotten thrown in the trash.

Maybe this dogslaughter is a just a peripheral victim of the WOD's.

IMO common sense was lacking by all LEO's in this stop from not getting the facts straight before the stop to not clearing the car and closing the doors to shooting a playful medium size dog instead of using some other means to assess and stop its "threat".
453 posted on 01/10/2003 9:41:20 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
Seems to me if she exagerated the 110 mph whe was less than credible in her reporting.

Already addressed in post 414.

But your speculation on the seizure potential and WOD as factors could be correct(and I am a supporter of the WOD).

454 posted on 01/10/2003 10:17:04 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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