Cop took just 3 seconds to shoot dog

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, January 9, 2003

[mel]

Absolutely, seeing i guess the son (video was not clear on my computer) trying to go to the dog when it was shot, then those thugs knocking him to the ground is so heartbreaking, and you are right, even if the dog was a dachshund I believe it would have been shot.

[mel]

And I think it is interesting how long the dogs remained in the car before one finally exited, that leads me to think these were trained and loved pets. There was more than enough time to simply shut the door

[Merdoug]

Yeah; Even when Hall was grinning at his fellow policemen after blowing the dog's head off. THAT was a mistake too, I suppose?

[Trickyguy]

And inside the cop would have been laughing at you. He killed the dog because he was a sadist. That's the only reason.

[FreePaul]

...I do think of police as human-beings who make mistakes.

And as other human beings they should suffer the consequences of their "mistakes". Aiming and firing a shotgun is not a "mistake". It is a deliberate act which the shooter initiates. The "mistake" may be in judgement, temperment or thought processes of the shooter. For this the shooter should suffer the consequences and they should be severe.

If a passenger in the car had made a "mistake" and shot one of the officers would you be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt? Should he suffer the consequences of his "mistake"?

[delacoert]

...when Hall was grinning at his fellow policemen after blowing the dog's head off. THAT was a mistake too, I suppose?

Maybe if you or I had seen and heard exactly what transpired at the moment that the young man, whose dog had just been shot, described as the officer grinning, we would have interpreted Hall’s expression entirely differently. Maybe it was more of a grimace than a grin. Maybe the other officer said something to Hall, which the young man did not hear, that elicited a response with an entirely different meaning.

Are you absolutely convinced that the young man’s characterization of Hall’s expression was flawlessly accurate?

Have you watched the interview of Officer Hall that I posted the link(s) for above?

[Terriergal]

I have no patience for aggressive dogs that act like they want even a little piece of me.

Kevin, you know I'm not an animal rights nut - but blowing away someone's property just because it appears obnoxious to you doesn't seem very American.

That's just about the worst way to deal with dogs. Kind of like being aggressive with something that has at most the mentality of an obnoxious little toddler and most often are just as easy to defuse if you actually pay attention.

The most wonderful men I've met are those who have the discernment to understand animal behavior, as well as not be unduly threatened by bluffing dogs, annoying as they are.

The cop may not have been able to see whether the dog was aggressive, but he WAS asked to close the door to prevent it getting out, and still ignored the danger. That is just plain arrogant. It wasn't only a danger to the dog, it was dangerous for other drivers who might have hit it or swerve and cause an accident, but he made the decision to ignore the request.

[Republic of Texas]

We are all human beings who make mistakes. And, we have to pay for those. I have made a couple in my job, each time they cost. I mean, like, COST. Out of my pocket. The dispatcher should be punished, as well as the sadistic, pet murdering cop. The mature person, takes their medicine, and moves on.

[Admin Moderator]

knock it off.

[Terriergal]

If I had a dog that attacked one of them "growling" and so forth, and he shot it, I'd also have no complaints.

So--- if you were stopped by a cop, while holding your suspicious dogs' collar, and he demanded you put your hands up, and you said if you did, the dog may try to protect you, please don't make me put both hands up...

...and he still made you, the dog growled at him and he shot it... who would be at fault?

[rolling_stone]

http://www.wsmv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1079914

[Terriergal]

Nuke- I heartily agree with a lot of your points. But you really have to curb your language IMO. I know you've seen a lot more horror than the rest of us, and I salute you for that... but swearing only muddies the waters.

[Terriergal]

This shooting is just as chicken bleep as the Weaver case.

Definitely. I'm just watching the 'trend' you mentioned in another post. None of this stuff surprises me but it quietly (sometimes not so quietly) outrages me nonetheless. I am only waiting with a calm certainty of where this trend is going, and mentally preparing myself and my family and friends for it as best I can.

Have a beer man... it's outrageous what is happening but being all hot under the collar won't make you a more effective soldier against it.

[BibChr]

Well, and what if I had a rare throat disorder, and what if seeing policemen during a full moon when the tide was high and Mars was in the seventh house (?!) made me involuntarily yell "KILL, Brucie!!!", and I tried to tell the policeman that at great length, and he tired of my explanation, and STILL he stubbornly commanded me to....

We can "what if" until terriers became horses. It was a quick, panicked event. Cops tried to act proactively in what had been reported as a crime situation.

If they'd succeeded in grabbing a bunch of lowlife cretinous robbers (esp. illegal aliens) who'd just robbed Gramma's last $450, most of the FReepers here would be cheering.

They didn't. They made a mistake. It was almost over. But then the cop who was actually there said a pit bull/boxer attacked him and he shot, and not until the last millisecond. That's what actually happened.

So one is either basically with the "Cops! They're jackbooted pigs! Poor doggie! The cop's lying!" school of thought, or he's with the "Cops, they risk their lives daily to keep peace in a fallen world, make decisions weekly that most of us are spare for our entire lives, I'm inclined to cut him some slack" school.

It's clear where a lot of "experts" here are. It's clear where I am. What more do you want? Feel I haven't quite heard plainly enough what some of my darling co-FReepers here think? Believe me, I could pass a written exam. (c;

Dan

[Terriergal]

Whatever, man.

[johnny7]

No, it's not another Weaver. It's cops who are bored.

Police don't want to shoot it out with bad boyz.

Make a simple arrest and the boss will give you a pat on the back. Revenue!

Most are not fit to patrol... and few do.

[Terriergal]

There are a few out there that shouldn't be. And too many people who don't know how to interact with animals. I am NOT someone who is afraid to shoot a nuisance animal or a threatening animal. But when in your line of work you routinely must deal with dogs, you HAVE to learn to work with them in situations where they may seem aggressive.

But the trend is that the guys who have the guns are using them too freely, and the responsible people are having a harder and harder time being able to even own one.

I think we can link *that* with Weaver.

[VRWC For Truth]

A can of mace would have been effective on the dog. The cop is an idiot.

[eno_]

Individual cops should not set enforcement priorities, but neither should the prospect of siezures and fines. If we made laws that rebated all forfeitures and fines to taxpayers, cops would naturally conform to priorities that were more in line with the importance of the crime.

[BibChr]

Whatever, man.

You really know how to make a guy glad he took the time to give a thoughtful response.

Noted.

Dan