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Cop took just 3 seconds to shoot dog
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, January 9, 2003

Posted on 01/08/2003 11:35:54 PM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: ambrose
BTW - I'm sure you know this already, did you see where the notorious Bob Ricks is working?
301 posted on 01/09/2003 2:56:59 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Swordmaker
This is, as I have said before, a trajedy...

Yes, it is.

This chain of unfortunate events has enough mistakes to go around:

No, I can't accept that. I have a problem with the felony stop to start with. There was no felony reported, the dispatcher communicated poorly with the officers and the officers did not take the time after pulling the car over to get more information. I would rather sit in my car for half an hour with the police behind me getting needed information, than sit on the side of the road handcuffed. They should have requested better information on the vehicle and the reason this car was wanted and waited.

In a felony stop, the police give clear and concise instructions and you follow them - to the letter. Which was the bigger mistake on the part of the Smoaks in your opinion, Mr. Smoaks closing his door and dropping his hands (several times) or Mrs. Smoaks and her son exiting the passenger side with their hands constantly in the air, leaving the door left open?

In the controlled situation of a felony stop, who is responsible for securing the doors, keeping the dogs seen and known to be in the car, in the car, on a busy highway during a felony stop? The THP officer who swept the car was.

For me there's no way around it, the THP is responsible for Patton getting out of the car and Officer Hall subsequently shooting him.

And to all the JBT wackos on this thread, I'm the one applauding the cops for enforcing Darwinism when they weed you out of the gene pool for stupidity.

302 posted on 01/09/2003 2:57:37 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: dirtboy
"Shooting the family pooch resonates with mainstream America."

This is what I am talking about as a cultural problem. This story will resonate, but incompetents like Louis Freeh will go on with there lives with their retirement benefits intact.
303 posted on 01/09/2003 2:58:43 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: from occupied ga
Odds are 99.99999999999% that they are self insured and it will come out of the taxpayers' pockets.

Normally, I resent it when taxpayers get the tab for something like this hung around their necks, but these idiots in Cookeville elected the Mayor responsible for these trigger-happy morons, so screw 'em.



304 posted on 01/09/2003 3:01:14 PM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: Wordsmith
I will not play the "dishonest broker" in the Ruby Ridge matter since the only facts we have are that a sniper wasted a woman with a heavily armed infant. The problem is that Whitcomb had to submit his book to the FBI for screening before it was published. It is no different from myself if I had to submit a publication to the DOD. If I wrote what I knew, my screen name would dissappear tommorrow, thus my tempered, though somewhat vile commetary at times. I will simply say that your assessment of a "higher authority" authorizing the assasination of Mrs. Weaver is correct. I'll leave it at that.
305 posted on 01/09/2003 3:06:36 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Stew Padasso
actually, I missed that one. Who is he?
306 posted on 01/09/2003 3:08:10 PM PST by ambrose
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To: dirtboy
For you.
(c8
308 posted on 01/09/2003 3:09:45 PM PST by BibChr
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To: JohnHuang2
...I yelled at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack [ "to attack" is a BIG, unsubstantiated assumption], so I felt [admits he was not thinking] that I had no option [correction - he is too stupid to think of another option that would be reasonable, justifiable, and mitigating to the situation] but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report....

This idiot's report can be used like a shovel to bury his own ass.

309 posted on 01/09/2003 3:22:43 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: BibChr
Your story might be relevant if the family had been reported as 'dangerous felons' and if there dog had actually attacked. Why do you repeat the lie that the dog attacked, when people who have viewed the tape say that the dog's behaviour was clearly not an attack? Are you dishonestly ignoring the issue, or are you just too dumb to figure it out?
310 posted on 01/09/2003 3:28:52 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: dirtboy
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311 posted on 01/09/2003 3:33:45 PM PST by BibChr
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To: headsonpikes
there are a couple of handfulls of posters on this forum who, by the consistent nature of their posts, should be considered little more than trolls in good graces. They don't ever cross the lines of propriety that would result in banning, but they routinely post material that is in some way "over the top," an exaggerated point of view that serves to derail a train of thought on affected threads.
312 posted on 01/09/2003 3:33:59 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: ambrose
Waco FBI Government Goon: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Waco+Bob+Ricks

Now heading Homeland Security dept. for OK: http://www.youroklahoma.com/homelandsecurity/

313 posted on 01/09/2003 3:38:35 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
OK, since you're the most abusive and biggest wacko on this thread, I'll ask you. Where do you think the LEOs get the authority to perform a no knock raid in full body armor with guns locked, loaded and off safe? The courts? The legislators? NO, US, dope. We're the ones who watched increasing violence and crime on our streets while we cowered in our houses, elected ever increasing politicians who swore to get tough on crime with sweeping legislation giving greater power to law enforcement and constraining the courts - each time whittling away our rights and turning us all guilty until proven innocent. We demanded longer prison sentences and higher taxes to put more of our neighbors in jail while demanding tougher gun control and less vigilantism/independance.

We convinced ourselves that anything bad that happened to us was someone elses fault and they had to pay. We demanded more of our neighbors tax money to pay for services we chose not to provide ourselves and make sure wealth was fairly (if not evenly) distributed.

Your JBT tunnel vision causes you to not recognize the real cause of what you criticize, and alienates the reasoned thinkers that are trying to fix what 40 years has wrought. Try taking the tin foil off your head long enough to read this and understand:

Although we give lip service to the notion of freedom, we know the government is no longer the servant of the people but, at last has become the people's master. We have stood by like timid sheep while the wolf killed, first the weak, then the strays, then those on the outer edges of the flock, until at last the entire flock belonged to the wolf. We did not care about the weak or about the strays. They were not a part of the flock. We did not care about those on the outer edges. They had chosen to be there. But as the wolf worked its way towards the center of the flock we discovered that we were now on the outer edges. Now we must look the wolf squarely in the eye. That we did not do so when the first of us was ripped and torn and eaten was the first wrong. It was our wrong. (Gerry Spence)

314 posted on 01/09/2003 3:38:43 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: Dimensio
Thithillian Bump
315 posted on 01/09/2003 3:41:06 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: dirtboy
And he's saying that Dan did not say what you claim that Dan said. You claim that Dan said 'if', but Dan clearly did not have an 'if' there.
316 posted on 01/09/2003 3:49:12 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: optimistically_conservative
"Where do you think the LEOs get the authority to perform a no knock raid in full body armor with guns locked, loaded and off safe? The courts? The legislators? NO, US, dope."

Who is US? A lot of folks have been raising the red flag for some time, and they have not been timid little sheep.

Federal and local law enforcement has been merging and training with the military under the guise of the FBI for years. The chickens are coming home to roost and the kooks who spoke up years ago don't look so silly, they are only angrier and frustrated.

"alienates the reasoned thinkers that are trying to fix what 40 years has wrought. Try taking the tin foil off your head long enough to read this and understand:"

Your type of reasoned thinking has gotten us into this mess. Maybe a little in your face tactics and colorful language is exactly what the government should hear?

318 posted on 01/09/2003 4:05:23 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
I was just gonna say, why would anyone post a quote from that panty waste liberal Spence?

Somehow, I do not feel guilty for the situation we are in.
319 posted on 01/09/2003 4:08:36 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Ah come on .... tell the idiot what you really think ...
320 posted on 01/09/2003 4:10:46 PM PST by clamper1797
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