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To: Nuke'm Glowing
OK, since you're the most abusive and biggest wacko on this thread, I'll ask you. Where do you think the LEOs get the authority to perform a no knock raid in full body armor with guns locked, loaded and off safe? The courts? The legislators? NO, US, dope. We're the ones who watched increasing violence and crime on our streets while we cowered in our houses, elected ever increasing politicians who swore to get tough on crime with sweeping legislation giving greater power to law enforcement and constraining the courts - each time whittling away our rights and turning us all guilty until proven innocent. We demanded longer prison sentences and higher taxes to put more of our neighbors in jail while demanding tougher gun control and less vigilantism/independance.

We convinced ourselves that anything bad that happened to us was someone elses fault and they had to pay. We demanded more of our neighbors tax money to pay for services we chose not to provide ourselves and make sure wealth was fairly (if not evenly) distributed.

Your JBT tunnel vision causes you to not recognize the real cause of what you criticize, and alienates the reasoned thinkers that are trying to fix what 40 years has wrought. Try taking the tin foil off your head long enough to read this and understand:

Although we give lip service to the notion of freedom, we know the government is no longer the servant of the people but, at last has become the people's master. We have stood by like timid sheep while the wolf killed, first the weak, then the strays, then those on the outer edges of the flock, until at last the entire flock belonged to the wolf. We did not care about the weak or about the strays. They were not a part of the flock. We did not care about those on the outer edges. They had chosen to be there. But as the wolf worked its way towards the center of the flock we discovered that we were now on the outer edges. Now we must look the wolf squarely in the eye. That we did not do so when the first of us was ripped and torn and eaten was the first wrong. It was our wrong. (Gerry Spence)

314 posted on 01/09/2003 3:38:43 PM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: optimistically_conservative
"Where do you think the LEOs get the authority to perform a no knock raid in full body armor with guns locked, loaded and off safe? The courts? The legislators? NO, US, dope."

Who is US? A lot of folks have been raising the red flag for some time, and they have not been timid little sheep.

Federal and local law enforcement has been merging and training with the military under the guise of the FBI for years. The chickens are coming home to roost and the kooks who spoke up years ago don't look so silly, they are only angrier and frustrated.

"alienates the reasoned thinkers that are trying to fix what 40 years has wrought. Try taking the tin foil off your head long enough to read this and understand:"

Your type of reasoned thinking has gotten us into this mess. Maybe a little in your face tactics and colorful language is exactly what the government should hear?

318 posted on 01/09/2003 4:05:23 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: optimistically_conservative
Awww, come on...you can reply. We won't make much more fun of you...who is your next quote from? Hitlery Clinton? OJ's legal team? We're just dying for your response Mr. Liberal Know it all posing as a FReeper....(well, maybe not)
329 posted on 01/09/2003 4:26:27 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: optimistically_conservative
STILL waiting for your clever reply p*ss boy. Is Mr. Spence unavailable for comment, or have the DUposters not given you enough ammo to reply yet???
332 posted on 01/09/2003 5:31:42 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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