Why black conservatives are maligned (we have a shot to change how blacks in America will vote)

newaus ^ | 2/1/2001 | Stephen Frazier

[TLBSHOW]

Why black conservatives are maligned

TNA News with Commentary Thursday 1 February 2001

Bryant Pearson, writing in The Black Turncoat Forum BBS, asks why conservative blacks are so maligned simply for having a point of view different from the ‘normal’ black person. He wrote: “When we conservative blacks speak up for what we believe why are we treated like we’ve done something wrong. I believe that we have a shot to change how blacks in America will vote in 4 years if we get together and work hard at changing the minds of many in our community.”

Bryant, we are maligned because all liberals instinctively feel that no black person is capable of such independent thought or activity. When we encounter a liberal black, he succumbs to the playground mentality and thinks of us as self hating Uncle Toms or just ‘acting white’. If that doesn’t reveal how he really feels about independent minded blacks, nothing does.

They are actually envious of our ability to develop and articulate ideas, philosophies and actions apart from the ‘normal’ black culture, and must try to make themselves more important by trying to make us less relevant. Even white liberals, when opposed by conservative blacks, tend to think of us as ‘fronts’ for some white person or group, or they consider us as tokens. Worst of all, they consider liberal blacks as needing ‘leaders’. I have never heard anyone mention a white leader or a black conservative leader.

The fact is neither black nor white conservatives need leaders, and the same for white liberals, but black liberals do, and most people think that all blacks do. This is the myth initiated by white liberals and perpetuated by black ones. What we black conservatives must do is become proactive in spreading the conservative message. We must speak and act ahead of the curve, before someone else has begun the battle that we know must be joined long before they do.

We must not only let blacks know that we are here and we are viable, but we must let everyone know that not all of us dance to the same tune as played by the race hustling poverty pimps, otherwise known as black leaders. If you look at the ‘leaders’ in the white community, you see many individuals with leadership skills acting together to achieve a common goal. There is no one particular ‘leader’, other than the one(s) chosen by the participants themselves to run the show, whereas black liberals will accept whatever loudmouth or show off who declares himself or is declared by the media as ‘black leader’ (read my own declaration written in 1994).

The at large conservative community, black and white has many leaders, each with his or her own special contribution to the effort.

Black liberals are quite content to sit by and watch someone else take the initiative, fight the battle, and tell us all about it in the process. Black conservatives must take care not to allow others to take the initiative for a battle that we must lead, and that is the battle to establish ourselves as not just followers of some white guy who is fighting for us. If we fall into that trap, then we are no different from the black liberals, which puts all of us into the same boat, which is that none of us are capable of carrying our own weight in our own battle.

*Stephen Frazier runs the very politically incorrect The Black Turncoat Forum site.

[paul in cape]

I wish the questioned being asked was not "Why do the Repub's only get 10% of the black vote," but "Why do 90% of Blacks vote for Democrats?" The smartest and most talented blacks in Public Service are REPUBLICANS!

[South40]

Racist and angry of all sorts dislike conservative blacks.

Below is a post directed at me in another forum not more than an hour or so ago. Believe it or not, this fool actually claims to fight racism with these words. Really!

Check this

[TLBSHOW]

"Why do 90% of Blacks vote for Democrats?"


The author hopes to turn that around in 2004 and so do I.

[TLBSHOW]

I hope you told them they won't with that post.

[South40]

He actually believes he's fighting the good fight...that I deserve it for being unfaithful to my race.

That forum gets all types.

[potlatch]

this fool actually claims to fight racism with these words. Really!

Every Black person who is a Republican, is usually an educated person. That's important because it means they know and understand the issues. People, who make comments, like that one to you, couldn't think of anything more intelligent to say!!

[Republic of Texas]

" The fact is neither black nor white conservatives need leaders, and the same for white liberals, but black liberals do, and most people think that all blacks do. This is the myth initiated by white liberals and perpetuated by black ones. "

I know this is true, but I never could figure out why.

[apackof2]

Amen Stephen Frazier and God's speed to you!

[unspun]

Nice. We should appeal to many Demoserf blacks on the basis of the social conservative views we have in common, plus upward mobility... and bring 'em along on the rest.

[South40]

Actually...this fool regularly boasts of higher education. He claims to have a degree in Poly Sci. What's perhaps worse is that he has defenders. Other dims actually defend his racism! I guess I that shouldn't surprise me.

[potlatch]

Other dims actually defend his racism! I guess I that shouldn't surprise me.

No, but it makes you feel bad, doesn't it, and sad too!

[Jeff Chandler]

He claims to have a degree in Poly Sci

 

That proves nothing.

[rdb3]

I know this is true, but I never could figure out why.

I've said this selfsame thing on numerous occasions. Black people don't need leaders.

Some well-meaning posters have stated that there needs to be a new "leadership" among American blacks. But this goes against the grain of what conservatism (post) is all about: individuality.

Lastly, it is also indicative of just how pervasive Leftist thinking truly has become. We argue using their language and their own tools. Squash that! It's a new day.

So I submit to you and all other conservatives (post) in the nation this one thing concerning race issues, and that is to cease and desist using the enemies' tools which will be used against us. Do not use their language, thinking, or terms. Reject their ways, also, by discontinuing thinking of us as a group. Individual blacks are responsible for their successes and failures just like every other American is responsible for theirs. Refer to these as they are.

In short, apply all aspects of conservatism (post) to black people as you would to white. It's just that simple.

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[Poohbah]

You're going to have "leadership," even among conservatives, be they white, black, or green with day-glo pink polka dots (if, in no other manner, by virtue of addressing the issues of the day in clear and cogent terms) no matter what.

[WorkingClassFilth]

"...this fool regularly boasts of higher education. He claims to have a degree in Poly Sci."

I wouldn't brag about that if I were in his shoes. Having toenail fungus or ingrown hairs on his buttocks might carry more weight in discussions about reality.

[mhking]

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[hchutch]

Poohbah does have a point. Even among conservatives, there are some who take point or try a new approach. Thy are often the first, and forge a path of success and acheivement - and a lot of people end up following that pathin their footsteps. These are folks like Ronald W. Reagan and George W. Bush.

It is, in essence, leadership. Only in the case of conservatives, it is not based on race. It's based on folks who want to stop the endless left-wing cycle of throwing money at problems, even when that approach has failed multiple times, and has operated to the detriment of the very people it is intended to help.

[billhilly]

The truth does not require a lot of words, and you have spared us the excess. I could not agree more.

When in the military, I looked to leadership for my guidance. When in a volunteer organization I tried to provide leadership. In my life I have tried to lead my own family, and myself.

[mhking]

He claims to have a degree in Poly Sci.

Book sense and common sense do not necessarily go hand in hand...