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A lot of straw men in that little piece. I had to wonder if you were even talking to the right person. Anyway, just to bring you up to speed, Big Rusty was saying that he preferred safety to freedom (no one said anything about "absolute" freedom, btw), and I was showing him where that attitude would get him and us. I don't know if you have anything you'd like to add to that...

Taken the wrong way then. I prefer freedom but a moderation of both cannot exist without some group coplaining one way or the other. I do not think that anything that is done is good enough for some people so a happy medium must be found. I agree that freedom is important but safety is also as we live in different times. To weigh one against the other is very hard to do and the scales will never balance. I am satisfied right now as Gov. have been overstepping their boundries for years. But it is bafoons like us that keep re-electing these people who make these decisions. I do not feel any less free then what I did 10 years ago. I can still come and go as I please and the Gov. as 10 years ago can still obtain info on me at will if they wanted.