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To: Last Visible Dog
Nope. I am talking out of 24 years of experience in the computer industry. I am talking from the position of being a strong supporter of Apple (pre-Mac) and I was one of even factory trained on the Apple Lisa (look it up).

No need to look it up, thank you. I've got more experience than you in the industry. "pre-Mac" is a very long time ago. Things have changed.

Macs are dandy but the “lifestyle” computer crap is a wee bit short in the reality department unless you beleive how you "feel" about a computer is more important than reality.

Have you used a Mac lately, Ace? Sounds to me like you're a graying, narrow-minded computerist. I've got Macs, PCs, HPs, Suns, NT Servers, Decs, AS/400s and a couple of computers you've probably never heard of. (Right tool for the job, and all that.) The Mac opens some technological doors at a better price point for some things than other platforms. It's a business decision, you see. Return on investment.

It is very “liberal” of you to attack me without knowing ANYTHING about me in your zealous defense of an inanimate object (reminds me of the support Bill Clinton enjoyed). Like I said, Mac sure seems to be the "liberal" computer.

Unless you own a Mac, use a Mac and understand a Mac, your opinion is "talking out of your hat". If you see that as an "attack", you're mighty thin skinned.

Are you guys forced to turn in your sense of humor when you buy a Mac?

I find you laughable so I suppose not. (Now, that was an attack.)

31 posted on 01/07/2003 4:25:43 PM PST by Glenn
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To: Glenn
No need to look it up, thank you. I've got more experience than you in the industry. "pre-Mac" is a very long time ago. Things have changed.

If you think “pre-mac” is a “very long time ago” I seriously doubt you have more experience in the industry. Comments like “things have changed” also expose a bit of naiveté but I am just speculating.

Have you used a Mac lately, Ace?

Ace. Nice touch. (the sign of a true experienced computer professional) For years I have tried to find a way to get a Mac because I enjoy new toys but the Mac has about 0% market presence in the financial industry. I have to base my computer purchases on need, usability, and market factors – not “style” and marketing hype.

Sounds to me like you're a graying, narrow-minded computerist.

If you have more experience in the computer industry than I do that makes you FAR MORE gray and then I am (I think you let the cat out of the bag) - I was 19 when I started my career - you must be really old. I work in the realm of reality, not fantasy, lifestyle, and being hip and cool. But, outside of work I have a very hip and cool lifestyle (if I say so myself). Attacking people you don’t know is called ad hominem and does nothing for your argument and sure does not make it look like you have “more experienced”

got Macs, PCs, HPs, Suns, NT Servers, Decs, AS/400s and a couple of computers you've probably never heard of.

Try me big talker.

The Mac opens some technological doors at a better price point for some things than other platforms

Please descript these “doors” you are talking about. When is an Apple a better “price point” then other platforms? Sounds like a lot of hot air from a bluffer.

Unless you own a Mac, use a Mac and understand a Mac, your opinion is "talking out of your hat". If you see that as an "attack", you're mighty thin skinned.

I have reviewed the Mac many times as a business tool. The Mac has about zero presence in most business sectors and is NOT a business machine. If you think one computer is so dramatically different from others that one more possess, caress, and embrace it to “truly understand it” than clearly you are a newbie poser that does not have a clue what you are talking about

You attacked me personally without knowing a damn thing about me. You spew forth ad hominen attacks because I did not say complimentary things about your beloved computer platform and you have the nerve to call me “thin skinned”. Psychiatrists call it projection when one tries to project their problems on other people.

40 posted on 01/07/2003 5:17:04 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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