Posted on 01/07/2003 1:51:09 PM PST by Timesink
Your criticism of me carries as much weight as a child insisting "you can't do math with letters." While I don't enjoy malice for malice sake, I will admit some schadenfreude in mixing it up with those who start fights, and feign surprise when others get mad. If "hypocracy is the extent of your analytical repertoire, you've got a problem.
You actually believe that?
Funny, the Mac's market share is still 3% and holding.
Same as it ever was.
You pop in - insult me - show malice toward me and then make the statement "What kind of adult enjoys the practice of malice?"
You reek of hypocrisy and you think insulting me more will cover this up.
Ok, explain to us again why you think the statement "What kind of adult enjoys the practice of malice?" is really an analogy
That's not an analogy. That's a question. How does a question constitute malice on my part? The well/coffee was the analogy.
Then why did you make the following statement: You need a refresher on the meaning of the word "malice." I made an "analogy"
How does a question constitute malice on my part?
Got me? Who said a question constitutes malice?
This is the malice (from you) I was talking about:
you are so self-absorbed
you should be ashamed not only of your attitude, but your myopia
your petulant sneering
Funny, you have not made a single comment related to the thread.
BTW: my eyesight is just fine
You guys are SO blinded! I never said I don't like Mac's. I have just made comments about factually devoid statements related to Mac.
I've already laid out my reasonings.
You did? Where? Seems ALL you have done is attack me personally.
Your claim that PC's left Mac's in the dust in the early 90's is only true in the marketing sense. Functionality and performance on PC's didn't happen for the average business user until the release of Windows 95.
Until that point, I was telling my clients that they had to go with Macs to do the kind of things I was doing. After Win 95 was released, I told them they could do it on their Windows computers, but not as easily. How's that for objectivity? A true Mac missionary told clients to stay with Windows and PC's.
Now most of my clients are Windows users, so I know both platforms. I have 4 Macs and one Windows laptop. Why do I like the Mac? It allows me to work more efficiently without responding to constant messages asking if I really want to do that. Heck yeah, I clicked on it, and I really want to do it.
Mac users can trouble shoot their systems with ease because it is easy! Although I do have few Mac clients, my only callers for tech support are Windows users, and it is usually about Windows issues and has nothing to do with my solution. Mac users never have to call. They just do it.
That is perhaps the best feature of Macs. They don't take you down, cause you to have to call in the IT gurus several times a day to stop the blue screen of death, and intimidate the hell out of you.
Why are you so focused on putting Mac users and Macs down? Most of the posts on this thread are from you. Sheesh... get a life, or get a Mac. There is help for you.
Making comments about you "is" related to the thread. You took the announcement of certain mac product updates to demean both the computer, and the users...on multiple threads. The computers could care less; the users certainly don't deserve anything like the disdain you've poured out on them.
Like what?
Your claim that PC's left Mac's in the dust in the early 90's is only true in the marketing sense. Functionality and performance on PC's didn't happen for the average business user until the release of Windows 95.
I agree with that statement.
Until that point, I was telling my clients that they had to go with Macs to do the kind of things I was doing.
Like what? Be specific.
After Win 95 was released, I told them they could do it on their Windows computers, but not as easily.
When it comes to multitasking and memory management, Mac's SUCKED until the latter half of the 1990's (then it was too late). The "not as easily" is Apple's slogan yet I have never really seen it demonstrated in real life.
It allows me to work more efficiently without responding to constant messages asking if I really want to do that. Heck yeah, I clicked on it, and I really want to do it.
OK. You win that point.
Although I do have few Mac clients, my only callers for tech support are Windows users, and it is usually about Windows issues and has nothing to do with my solution. Mac users never have to call. They just do it.
You have more windows users AND Windows does and supports FAR MORE opinions than the Mac and that is the reason for most support issues IMHO.
Why are you so focused on putting Mac users and Macs down?
I'm not. I have not put down the Mac or Mac users - I have only made comment related to nonsense Mac propaganda. Mac fanatics TRY to box everybody into that trap if we don't buy the Mac propaganda. I can only go on by my real world experience. Macs need about as much support as Windows if you take into consideration the limited opinions you have on the Mac - if Windows could support the same amount of very limited opinions as the Mac, windows would seem rock solid too.
You, my friend, are a liar. I did no such thing.
My first comment was related to some Mac-Clown claiming the PC was a liberal computer.
Please stop this crap, it is pointless.
When one is describing a thief, it is not malicious to use the term "thief." When one is characterizing your performance on the mac threads since last night, the terms I have used are completely appropriate. That they are not pleasing to you does not make them wrong, or malicious. (People usually learn this stuff in their teens, you know...)
You are one egotistical SOB.
Look you are now resorting to lies. Please stop.
Windows does what Windows does. Mac does what Mac does. Sun does what Sun does. HP does what HP does. AS/400 does what AS/400 does (99.9999% uptime). Your problem is with Mac "people". You see them all as fanatics.
When it comes to DCOM, I'm Microsoft's biggest fan. When it comes to databases, IBM DB/2 gets my vote for uptime. For doing scientific or statistical analysis, Mac fits the bill. For high volume transaction servers, give me something Unix with an Oracle database.
I can code them all. I never met a platform or a language that didn't have some advantage to be exploited.
And when you can put them all together in a distributed and cooperative environment then the magic really happens.
Just what is your specialty, by the way? Programmer? Analyst? Designer? DBA? Tech Writer? Hardware Support? Help Center? Manager?
Be specific, now. That's your hot button.
Like what?
I was doing highly customized submittals and presentations to win multi-million dollar projects. The president of the largest service bureau in town took me to see the prototype of the new Fiery printer driver. I told him to buy it and he did. I used it the day it was delivered to print a submittal for a $29 million project, one which I had worked on at home on my Mac every night until 4 a.m. For two weeks. We won that job. :-)
Macs have always had more strength in the graphics functions, and my work on this project isn’t a testimonial to Mac’s strengths. My firm was 100% DOS oriented, and I had to do time and functions tests to convince the IT manager to allow me to buy Macs for the marketing department. I was very objective, because I didn’t want to spend money that wasn’t necessary. Even word processing functions fell behind my Mac in tests. I am not a good typist. The marketing coordinators under me were promoted from the secretarial ranks, and most could type 120 wpm. They couldn’t edit a document or create and type a new one as fast as I could. My time tests won the battle.
Until that point, I was telling my clients that they had to go with Macs to do the kind of things I was doing.
Like what? Be specific.
High end graphics and presentations. Mac territory.
After Win 95 was released, I told them they could do it on their Windows computers, but not as easily.
When it comes to multitasking and memory management, Mac's SUCKED until the latter half of the 1990's (then it was too late). The "not as easily" is Apple's slogan yet I have never really seen it demonstrated in real life.
The multi-tasking point is right on. I haven’t been able to do that until OS X. Quite often I have three computers working on my tasks. With OS X, I have more multi-tasking ability.
Although I do have few Mac clients, my only callers for tech support are Windows users, and it is usually about Windows issues and has nothing to do with my solution. Mac users never have to call. They just do it.
You have more windows users AND Windows does and supports FAR MORE opinions than the Mac and that is the reason for most support issues IMHO.
Not so, IMHO. My Windows uses are scared to death of their computers and are even more scared to call in their IT guys. Because I am so kind and gracious, they call me for help before they call the mean-spirited and overworked IT staff.
Why are you so focused on putting Mac users and Macs down?
I'm not. I have not put down the Mac or Mac users - I have only made comment related to nonsense Mac propaganda. Mac fanatics TRY to box everybody into that trap if we don't buy the Mac propaganda. I can only go on by my real world experience. Macs need about as much support as Windows if you take into consideration the limited opinions you have on the Mac - if Windows could support the same amount of very limited opinions as the Mac, windows would seem rock solid too.
You see, we Mac users also don’t like being put into a box. I use both platforms, but my preference is Mac. In my work, it doesn’t matter because it is cross-platform, so I can choose the system that gives me the least headaches. I am working now on adding XML functionality to my solution, and I can also do anything that is Windows-centric because I can run Windows on my Mac. This Mac solution developer is about to ink a deal for a big Windows based software company to sell my solution as part of theirs, and they don’t see any problem with the fact that I prefer to work on a Mac. It hasn’t stopped us from communicating, sharing files, viewing Webex presentations or synching data. I still love my Mac. :-)
Sure, I take everything Salon says as Gospel.
Yet, if true, their point is that Gates is not in anyone's face with his political leanings. Whatever his largess, it hasn't earned him any points with libs either. It's obvious he never ponied up to the Clintons, if he had, he wouldn't have been wrung through Reno Justice.
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