Posted on 01/07/2003 1:51:09 PM PST by Timesink
Let's see. Your opening contribution to the "Apple unveils own Web browser" thread was "Apple continues to find new ways to reshuffle their less than 3% of the computer market." Along with a nifty little bit of code to "predict Apple's approximate world wide share of the personal computer."
Your first comment on the "Apple Introduces New Products" thread was designed to impugned the personal experience and opinion of someone who knows building their own computer is not black magic.
Your trenchant commentary on the "Macworld Expo" thread began with a "once removed" retort and polemic to no less than Rush Limbaugh on the political leanings of a computer user based on the platform favoured.
Then you proceeded to condescend to those that don't share your dry, utilitarian, assessment of the impact personal computing has on individuals. (as if someone made you the arbiter of what constitutes "useful")
Finally, in a breathtaking display of solipsistic hubris, you actually criticize mac-users for being humourless, and oversensitive!
Now you have already accused me of being a liar, and I won't return the accusation, despite the lack of credibility on your part I've just demonstrated. As you know, in each of these cases your discussions went downhill after your initial post. But the reason I don't think you're a liar is because I don't believe you possess enough objective awareness to realize there's nothing wrong with a dog that bites you...after you've kicked it.
I don't give money to either of them, myself.
Clinton wasn't really so much a liberal or a Democrat as he was an out-and-out crook (not that there's all that much difference :-)).
Hey, I know MAC s do not have a good market share, but that's not the point: they actually work and work well, so why do PC owners hate them? As far as being "liberal" computers, that is ridiculous. Many Freepers use them and we pride ourselves as confirmed, VRWC full-blown, unchanging conservatives.
They don't (at least I sure as heck don't). I like to deflate overblown hot-air claims from Mac Fanatics but I have already said Mac's are cool slick computers. Mac Fantatics like to pretend that everybody that does not buy Apple Propaganda hates Mac's but clearly that is not true. If you like your Mac and it gets your job done - GREAT - MY GOD that is the purpose of a computer, to get things done. BUT if you make nonsense BS claims about Mac's or other computer platform I might jump in and call you on it.
Mac people really love their computers (sometimes too much). Mac Fanatics pretend there are Windows fanatics but I have NEVER seen one. I am into computing and have been all of my adult life BUT I am not into a specific computer companies or operating systems – those are peripheral issues in my mind. When it comes to my profession – when you boil it down: I am in it for the money. Case in point: I was a C/C++ programmer in the early 1990’s – most of my computer related friends thought C++ was cool. I noticed they were throwing money at Visual Basic programmer because VB blow the doors off of C++ when it came to the software development life cycle – many of my friends made fun of me because VB was not a real-man’s programming language. Fine, I double my salary when I switch to VB and I can say “VB been very very good to me”. The point is – if I see people are throwing money at Mac-platform programmers I will jump on that platform quicker than you can say “Luxury European Sports Sedan”
As far as being "liberal" computers, that is ridiculous.
I totally agree and I thought that topic was tongue-in-cheek until some Mac Fanatics started insulting me personally - then it turned VERY ugly (and very silly).
Ya know...it wouldn't get so personal if you would refrain from phrases like "mac-clowns," "mac-fanatics," and "mac-yorkies" etc...
PC’s rotting on the shelves is a nonsense statement. I believe PC’s out sell Mac’s like 30 to 1. I will bet your friend is a Mac-head and is applying a little Mac-Wishful-Thinking but I am just guessing. You also said that no one wants to buy Compac (it’s Compaq BTW) and HP computers in your city – I am willing to guess that statement was complete Mac-Wishful-Thinking (see Nonsense) and you have absolutely no data to back up this claim. I will bet if you got a hold of the sales data from the Staples store in question you would be very surprised. Successful nation-wide stores like Staples don’t sell Macs for very good business reasons.
My trusty iMAC computer does just what I want it to do with 99% up time, with virtually no failures after years of experience with four Macs.
Groovy.
If you like PCs, that's just fine.
Gee, thanks. And if you like your Mac, that’s just fine.
Can Mac people talk about their computers without mentioning Windows? I don't think so.
It's called analysis, and it's not my problem if I understand what you've said before you do.
For example: Paulus made a statement from his direct experience, and you have refused to accept his veracity. You counter with "I am willing to guess that statement was complete Mac-Wishful-Thinking (see Nonsense) and you have absolutely no data to back up this claim."
Do you think there is anyone here that doesn't know you wouldn't accept the veracity of any data what-so-ever if it didn't fit your predetermined conclusions. We all understand there is literally nothing he could say to get you to question or re-examine your own opinion. The only one that doesn't know that is you, and you're quite comfortable attributing the conflict that comes from such pig-headedness to mac-owner intractability.
Talk about clueless.
On the other hand, Apple now runs their own stores and claim to be selling well. Their new store in Vegas is doing excellent business and it's a nice looking place where a person can actually try the products and get tech help (at last!). Apple also claims that well over 600,000 businesses now are on MAC as they like the sturdy platform and OS 10.2 that seldom crashes. I enjoy these friendly interchanges.
Woahls, you really like making a COMPLETE FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF! Paulus admits his comment was "tad overboard"
You are amazing! You popped in just to insult people - you have posted NOTHING related to the topic of this thread.
I thought Apple always had there own stores…or at least for a long time.
Fun Facts: I was factory trained on the Apple II, IIe, III, and Lisa.
The Mac has held steady at about a 3% market share - maybe this will change but the iMac and the other "revolutionary" Apple products didn't seem to budge their market share.
I have always liked Apple - I just think their main strategy sucks. On the Apple side you have ONE company driving everything. On the Windows/Intel/IBM/Microsoft/Linux/AMD/etc./etc. side you have hundreds of companies and no one company controls it all (no matter how much Mac-Heads claim Microsoft pulls all the strings - heck, Microsoft does not even make computers).
I have tons of Wintel machines - I use Windows 98 (for my kids games, they are young), Windows 2000 for servers and my recording studio desktop, and Windows XP for my desk, laptop, and my wife's computer. We run a business out of our house so I also host web servers - I use Windows 2000 and Linux. I like the options. I don't want Microsoft dictating to me what I can and can’t do with my machine. If I use Linux I don't want Microsoft Linux - so why the HECK do Mac-People find that one company tells me what I can and can't do model so acceptable. Wouldn’t Mac people rather use REAL Linux than Apple’s Linux variant? I also have Palm and PocketPC PDA’s along with a Blackberry – I like choices (maybe that is why I am not a big fan of the Mac)
Apple is like a communist country. Apple tells you what you want and Apple users say “Please Sir, can I have some more”
If Apple had kept the open architecture of the Apple IIe in the Mac – I bet the Mac would be the dominant computers. But instead Apple went for and still goes for maximum profits. I really don’t like one company having so much power over my computing needs and I can’t figure out why Mac-Heads find that acceptable.
Mac’s are GREAT and you can do whatever it is you want to do on a Mac BUT Mac’s do not blow away PC’s – THAT is the only real gripe I have with Mac-Heads.
Woahhs, you are such a weenie
Example:
Paulus made a statement from his direct experience
relaying something somebody else said is not "direct experience" (dweeb)
Do you think there is anyone here that doesn't know you wouldn't accept the veracity of any data what-so-ever if it didn't fit your predetermined conclusions
Nobody has presented ANY data so your point is moot (and silly)
Woahhs, if you have any dignity you will stop this line of attacks. If you have something to add to the thread please do - buy if your only goal is to personally insult me - please stop.
Funny, only having the floor models left usually implies the items are "selling like hotcakes" - having a large inventory using means something is no selling.
I bought me mom an HP computer for Christmas (1.7GHz,60 G HB,17" monitor, color printer, XP, graphic software, etc., etc,) for $550.00 (amazing!) - anyway I bought it at Best Buy - the place was PACKED with people buying PC's there were lines of people checking out with PC’s - they had PC stacked to the ceiling and they were flying out the door. Fear not - PC's are selling like Hotcakes (for my antagonist friend - THAT is direct experience).
No, I popped in just to insult you. There isn't much else that can make it through your bullet-proof haughteur. And if you would stop trying to "save face" for your previous asininities, I'd leave you alone.
BTW...do you think your hysterical shouting adds any more validity to your "see spot run" charge that I'm making a fool of myself when all I've had to say is visible to everyone on this thread?
I'm really trying to resist the temptation to speculate... as all the people I knew into computers when you say you started in the business were greasy little geeks that spent so much time with machines because they couldn't interface with people. Thankfully, modern computer wizards take baths and spend enough time with people to develop emotionally, but I have to wonder about all those arrested development types that spent so many hours in front of a keyboard back in the seventies; did they ever grow up?
They really where quite pathetic you know. If you talked about anything but computers, they became sullen and displayed all the sophistication of a ten-year-old. If they could get you onto computers though...they showed a morbid disdain that was only offset by the fact that all the normal people knew that was their one and only domain, and were charitable enough to let them keep it.
Damn, looks like I'll have to resist speculating harder.
No
You are more than welcome to press the abuse button, and let a moderator make the decide whether my contributions to this thread are worth keeping, or if you are a blowhard that can dish it but can't take it.
This from a person that breaks out the big guns with terms like "dweeb" and "weenie?"
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