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To: Pharmboy
Pereira said the only other option would have been to throw to an eligible receiver.

Two points: Go back to the olden days, before spiking was allowed: All he had to do was throw at the feet of an eligible receiver (something QBs frequently do when a screen gets busted up--you don't want the guy to catch it and lose yardage).

Secondly: Okay, he spikes it. Illegal forward pass. 5 yards and loss of down. Because he does it so quickly, there's time left on the clock. They get another shot. That's preferable to what did happened.

Pet peeve: Coaches who let the clock tick down to 4 or so seconds for the game-winning or game-tying FG. If you leave 7 seconds on the clock then if something goes wrong and it's not 4th down, you can throw the ball away (or kneel and call TO if you have a time out left).

And if your offensive line doesn't have 7 men on the line and the flag drops, you get another play because there's two seconds left (if the clock runs out, you're SOL, game *can* end on an offensive penalty).

What the coaches are saying is that they're worried about 2 seconds being left on the clock and a Cal-Stanford type of KO return to end the game.

Okay, what's more likely? A Cal-Stanford (or Tennessee/Buffalo) type play, a once in a lifetime play that will be talked about for generations, or a team committing a penalty or botching a snap? I think the latter is a bit more probable. If a team has the chance, they should kick end-of-game FGs with 7-8 seconds left, then squib the kickoff rather than letting the clock run down to the last play.

7 posted on 01/06/2003 11:54:15 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Numbers Guy
Go back to the olden days, before spiking was allowed: All he had to do was throw at the feet of an eligible receiver (something QBs frequently do when a screen gets busted up--you don't want the guy to catch it and lose yardage).

One more point: It's inexcusable for a team *not* to have something ready for such a situation. WHY were ineligible receivers running downfield after a botched snap? There is absolutely no reason for them to do so, it's just inviting a penalty.

11 posted on 01/06/2003 11:56:36 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Numbers Guy
"Secondly: Okay, he spikes it. Illegal forward pass. 5 yards and loss of down. Because he does it so quickly, there's time left on the clock. They get another shot. That's preferable to what did happened."

They get another shot to botch the snap? Have Matt Bryant kick another wounded duck from Fillmore Street?
29 posted on 01/06/2003 12:05:25 PM PST by BaghdadBarney
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To: Numbers Guy
Good post. Why not just throw it out of bounds?
130 posted on 01/06/2003 12:44:41 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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230 posted on 01/06/2003 1:34:47 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: Numbers Guy
Pereira said the only other option would have been to throw to an eligible receiver.

What amazes me is why they didn't simply try Collins-to-Toomer for a fourth time, since they shredded the 49ers deep all day long. Especially given the awful prior missed FG. They had time to try it twice.

253 posted on 01/06/2003 1:49:51 PM PST by montag813
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