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To: SheLion
My biggest problem with the issues involved here is people do not make a distinction between rights and a transaction. Somewhere, consensual transactions involving buyer and seller became confused with "rights."

When transactions and rights became synonymous, it created a lot of the current confusion and certainly muddied the waters when it came to what a business owner can and cannot do.

And, not to defend business owners to much, there are a lot of owners that willingly abrogated the right to run their business as they see fit to government dictate.

29 posted on 01/06/2003 7:55:32 AM PST by stylin_geek
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To: stylin_geek
I too, am a non-smoker
31 posted on 01/06/2003 7:56:38 AM PST by stylin_geek
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To: stylin_geek
And, not to defend business owners to much, there are a lot of owners that willingly abrogated the right to run their business as they see fit to government dictate.

Oh! For sure! Take a peek at this article telling us how some bars/restaurants in California have taken the prohibitionist way around smoking bans, in order to hang onto their business:

From Fox News:
While cops try to sniff out the worst offenders, in many cases they're butting up against organized opposition. Bartender phone trees warn each other of impending busts, powerful fans blow away tell-tale scents of "smokin' in the boys room" and tin cans double as ashtrays in case of an unexpected visit by police.

California Smokers Use Prohibition Tactics to Get Around Ban

Also, check this one out:

Research fails to justify smoking ban in restaurants

72 posted on 01/06/2003 8:43:14 AM PST by SheLion
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To: stylin_geek
My biggest problem with the issues involved here is people do not make a distinction between rights and a transaction. Somewhere, consensual transactions involving buyer and seller became confused with "rights."

Seems to me a denial of the "right" of consenting adults to form a contract as regards a legal product. Of course, the anti goal is to make that product illegal as soon as possible and our civil serpents, none of them rocket scientists, believe that's what the people want but don't want to give up the gazillions of dollars they make on it. It's just simply amazing to me that so many otherwise bright and decent people are willing to throw away other folks' rights because they don't "like" something.

271 posted on 01/06/2003 12:14:20 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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