Posted on 01/05/2003 6:38:23 PM PST by Mortimer Snavely
Phil Van Cleave, head honcho of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc., just e-mailed this:
"The Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star is publishing a list of area residents who have concealed handgun permits.
Great idea Free Lance - let's tell all the criminals which houses to burgle in order to get some guns! Great service to the community.
Maybe the editor and senior people at the Free Lance should publish their personal home addresses so that they, too, can spend quality time with some of those cuddly little felons.
Here is the link:
If you find publishing CHP holder's names and addresses to be a pretty stupid idea and to be endangering of the citizens of Virginia, let them know about it. Just because they have the right to publish public information does not necessarily make it the smart or correct thing to do:
newsroom@fredericksburg.com "
DITTO ! Good thinking!!
First good idea I've seen on this thread. Organize a boycott of those advertisers and you could drive that newspaper into oblivion. It would serve them right.
What a bunch of creeps. A totally unnecessary invasion of privacy.Precisely.
Fulfilling the legal requirement to register to carry a concealed weapon does NOT give the newspaper permission to print PRIVATE personal information of gun owners any more than they could freely print the PRIVATE personal information of vehicle owners.
See, for example, from http://www.motorists.org/ericpeters/archive/privacy.html:
Op-Ed: A Victory for Privacy
By Eric Peters
2/7/00For once, Big Brother won't be watching you -- or releasing information about you to private, for-profit companies so they can harass you with dinner-time telephone solicitations. Or making it possible for psychotics to track down your home address through DMV records.
Last week, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the dissemination of such information can be barred and that such prohibitions do not encroach upon state authority because of the infringement on personal privacy it represents.
You may not have known it, but state departments of motor vehicles in many states have for years routinely sold -- yes, sold -- information about you to telemarketing companies, among others. Millions of dollars in revenue have been generated in this fashion. State motor vehicle agencies have also been giving out this information for free (or for a small processing charge) to pretty much anyone who asks for it -- crooks and nutcases included.
Your name, address, telephone and Social Security numbers are all in the DMV computer. You had to provide them when you applied for a driver's license. And marketing companies are keenly interested in the data. It helps them find you, helps then nail down your likely income level (via your address; they can figure out how much your home is worth and thus how much cake you take home), and, most important of all, gives them the golden key to your ear -- a home telephone number.
They are quite willing to pay for this intelligence. And state motor vehicle departments have been eager to provide it.
Before you can say "Good evening, is this Mr. Smith?" an annoying call has interrupted your supper or made you get up from the sofa just when you were beginning to get comfortable.
But it gets worse. Fraud artists have discovered a veritable gold mine in those DMV computers. Information about you, such as your date of birth, address, Social Security number, etc. can be used to generate fake identities -- based on yours. Crooks can set up bank accounts, obtain credit cards, go on a shopping spree -- all in your name, naturally. The bills, of course, are credited to the "real" you -- until you manage to convince the merchants and credit reporting agencies that you're an innocent victim of fraud.
But worst of all, violent criminals can find out where you live -- simply by filing out a short form and cross-referencing your license plate number with DMV records. Actress Rebecca Shaeffer found about this the hard way. She was murdered by a stalker who got her home address via the DMV.
Congress responded to the Schaeffer murder by passing the Driver's Privacy Protection Act in 1994; the DPPA bars states from disclosing personal information without the formal consent of the driver...CLICK HERE for more
A search on the names of the Publisher & Associate Publisher reveals the following. These may or may not be the same persons listed as the Publisher & Associate Publisher.
Josiah P Rowe
610 Lewis St
Fredericksburg, VA 22401
540-373-2321
Nicholas Cadwallender
615 Fauquier St
Fredericksburg, VA 22401
540-373-7210
But of course!!! I'm VERY well armed and prepared...I just don't have a CCW license (which means, of course, I am on the "Evil Gun Purchasers List." But hey, I was born too late, and I didn't inherit enough guns to qualify as a "hoarder" so I had to buy some legally. I'm on the inside of the system, just so.
can you say "violation of privacy children? sure you can!"
free dixie,sw
It's a lot more entertaining to accuse CCW supporters of selling out.
It's not perfect, but it beats the alternative of keeping CCW a felony.
S.O.S - Be sure and try the "natural rights" argument on the next Judge or JOP you meet after getting picked up for illegally packing, and see how much sympathy you get.
Soccer moms outnumber no limits pro-2a advocates by about 4 million to one in this country, and until you change a lot of minds, your "natural right" to self defense will get you nowhere but arrested.
540-373-2321
Yeppers but if I were one of the CCW holders I would Organize and take out an ad saying yep we got guns and legal right to carry! Assume we will use them and all you criminals assume anyone who isn't on the list including the folks at the TV and Newspapaers aren't carrying guns!
Have a nice day!
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