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Affirmative Action Faces a New Wave of Anger
The New York Times ^ | January 5, 2003 | JACQUES STEINBERG

Posted on 01/04/2003 10:38:08 PM PST by sarcasm

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To: dennisw
I've seen demands from Arabs for "minority" status - to qualify for affirmative action.
41 posted on 01/05/2003 2:55:42 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: RLK
"Anything else, forget it."

He's proven he lacks any type of skills handling serious issues and his wimp factor comes forth over and over again. I agree. I laugh my rear off when folks tell me he's a serious and successful businessman. George Bush's entire life has been promoted with a type of elite affirmative action.

42 posted on 01/05/2003 3:03:26 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: sarcasm
"Michigan aids minority applicants for two main reasons: to level the playing field and to enrich the educational experiences of whites and nonwhites alike. But had Ann Arbor not given a statistical boost to applicants whose test scores and grades may have been lower than hers, Ms. Gratz contends, she would have had a better chance of getting in."

And THIS is the problem, as it, by law, is NOT "affirmative action". "Affirmative action", as passed into law, designated that if two EQUALLY QUALIFIED candidates were available for a position, then preference should be given to the minority. It was NOT intended to be a "horserace handicapping system".

43 posted on 01/05/2003 3:10:20 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Uncle Bill
I laugh my rear off when folks tell me he's a serious and successful businessman. George Bush's entire life has been promoted with a type of elite affirmative action.

Getting cut in on the Texas stadium/ballclub deal was his windfall of a lifetime. But while with the team he did work his ass off, increasing the value of the entire package and his 15 million smackers when he cashed out

http://www.bushfiles.com/bushfiles/SweetheartDeal.html

 

44 posted on 01/05/2003 4:31:08 AM PST by dennisw
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To: sarcasm
...to enrich the educational experiences of whites and nonwhites alike...

Yep. You betcha! I want my son to go to college so he can learn to be like a minority person. He needs to learn how to talk street language, wear hip-hop clothing, speak spanish, etc.

Since when does the cultural background of fellow students enhance one's knowledge, or ability to learn, that which makes one a good doctor?

45 posted on 01/05/2003 4:31:42 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Uncle Bill
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46 posted on 01/05/2003 4:31:58 AM PST by dennisw
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To: TLBSHOW
did you know that Bush got almost 100% of the Muslim vote in 2000?

What is your source for this figure?

47 posted on 01/05/2003 4:38:35 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: TLBSHOW
But these 2 issues (Affirmative Action ) and the bannning of (PB Abortion) that will have me as a conservative republican walk away from Bush (and I am one of his biggest supporters) if he caves on either.

You are right to critisize Bush on his positions, but a more conservative could not have been elected. (Based on the closeness of this race with ultra liberal Gore, thanks be that Nader was also in the race)

Bush however may believe he can skate on this and "be a uniter" by coming out in favor of afirmative action when it is clearly discrimination based on race because the Supreme Court will likely decide against afirmative action leaving Bush in the best position to attract voters from the minority side. (Of course this only works if he does not lose us in the process.)

48 posted on 01/05/2003 4:47:38 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: raybbr
Great point! The article also said:

......kids seemed somehow to us to add qualities to the class that your son or daughter did not, which only may mean that your son or daughter was like 75 percent of the class that we've already admitted."

I guess being in the 75% meant they met the qualification standards. The other 25% weren't as qualified, but they got a pass on the basis of thier race. I wish libs would drop thier code words. AA does not apply to ALL minorities; it applies to blacks and hispanics.

49 posted on 01/05/2003 4:48:28 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey
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To: dennisw; Uncle Bill
Getting cut in on the Texas stadium/ballclub deal was his windfall of a lifetime. But while with the team he did work his ass off, increasing the value of the entire package and his 15 million smackers when he cashed out

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As far as I'm concerned this great effort is an urban myth generated by political hacks and operatives trying ro create an idol. I've never seen itemized documentation. It looks to be one of a series of figurehead positions cashing in on the family name. It's about as impressive as the sports star who buys a car dealership or opens a restaurant, only Bush didn't need to throw any foreward passes ir score any knockouts in the ring to get the reputation. That's the way I have to call it. The theme I see throughout his life is one of the effort of saying, "I'm George Bush" and that's it

50 posted on 01/05/2003 5:49:55 AM PST by RLK
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To: jbind
The poor girl doesn't know she is lucky to be in the computer business rather than the medical business. I do think the young people are enraged at this,,my kids are, they are color blind and resent like hell the well to do black and hispanic kids gettiing the good stuff. Most of the affirmative action kids I know came from high income black and Hispanic families, not from poor families. I think there ought to be a hand up to the poor kids, black or white.
51 posted on 01/05/2003 6:04:36 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: Carolinamom
Mainstream Media Acknowledges Importance of Muslim Bloc Vote


A record number of Muslim first-time voters may have tipped the presidential election in George Bush's favor, according to a poll released yesterday by the Massachusetts chapter of the American Muslim Alliance. About 91 percent of Muslims in Florida cast ballots for Bush as part of an alliance endorsed voting bloc, said chapter chairman Tahir Ali, of Westborough. "The Muslims in America did have an impact in the presidential election this year." Ali said during an interview at the Islamic Center in Wayland. "If we had voted like we did in previous elections, guess who would be president right now? Al Gore." This was the first time the alliance, in conjunction with the American

AND THIS THE MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER AMERICA

American Muslims aim for political clout
Muslims captured an unprecedented number of seats ranging from state judgeships to city council slots.

http://www.amaweb.org/election2000/media_acknowledges.htm

52 posted on 01/05/2003 6:29:19 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
This source makes the point that Bush got 91% of the Muslim 2000 vote IN FLORIDA. Your earlier statement, without this phrase, gives the impression that the "almost 100%" in the 2000 election was nation-wide.
53 posted on 01/05/2003 6:41:54 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Carolinamom
."In a national, post-election telephone poll of Muslim voters, the alliance found that

more than 80 percent of them voted for Bush,


compared to 10 percent for Raplh Nader and 9 percent for Gore. An even larger percentage of Florida's 60,000 eligible Muslim voters supported Bush, according to the survey.

FROM THE SAME STORY, MORE THAN 80 PERCENT IT SAYS....

that is close to 100% in my book........
54 posted on 01/05/2003 6:48:07 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Carolinamom
which is why Isalm is Peace, it should be islam is votes
55 posted on 01/05/2003 6:49:26 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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