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To: HHFi
For years, I've been arguing with European acquaintances that their much-vaunted low crime rates had nothing to do with their socialist governments and gun control laws and everything to do with their homogeneous populations.

There's also the little-known fact that the FBI goes out of its way to lump as many crimes into the "gun-related" column as possible (to justify their yearly budgets), while the British government goes out of its way to get as many crimes and deaths OUT of the "gun-related" column as possible (so that they can continue to proclaim that crime is low even as it spirals out of control to new heights every day). In other words, US gun-crime statistics are inflated, and UK gun-crime statistics are deflated. It's entirely possible that the UK has already surpassed us in violent crime.

108 posted on 01/05/2003 5:43:27 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
I've seen that elsewhere recently. Was it you who posted it? Wasn't there considerably more. If you know, could you please provide a link?

Murders used to be tracked in one way in the USA, and then it was altered, apparently beginning in 1976. The underlying data in the following chart should demonstrate that there has been some offical fiddling with the numbers. Proof of this is how all three numbers in that chart just happen to coincide at the same number in 1976. I don't know why that is. It's as if some scheme was used to standardize the three different data tracking methods until one was finally chosen to be the "official" statistic to be disseminated.


As I recall, non-negligent homicide includes killings in self defense. About the only time any American institutions are willing to acknowledge that decent people actually succeed in preventing murders is when they can make it seem that murders are still high by lumping self-defense with murder. Naturally that coincides with typical liberal "thought" that no "one" is to blame, but "everybody" is.
109 posted on 01/05/2003 6:24:01 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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