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To: stalin
Overthrowing the Taliban and taking away a safe have for terrorists was part of the goal. In order to do that Khabul had to be taken. War is about a hell of a lot more than just killing people, one of the goals is to avoid another war, if we'd have just gone tear assing around Afghanistan killing bad guys and walked away when we were done we would have left it in the same state it was in after we helped kicked the Russians out. We saw just how great it was to leave Afghanistan a mess.

The war was a success, you're just a whining armchair goober that wants to talk down the country. If we'd have done it your way there would have been at least one maybe two more large attacks on America before we ever got troops in Afghanistan, prep time would have taken too long and the bad guys would have had all that time to use against us. We risked American military lives, we're risking them right now, people came home in bodybags and we didn't lose our resolve. WAKE UP, you're wrong.

Your Iraq comment shows just exactly how full of it you are. In Iraq we're going to be doing it your way, we just sent another 50,000 troops over. Make up your mind, how should we be fighting this? Better yet, sit down shut up and listen. We won in Afghanistan, we're going to win in Iraq and you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
36 posted on 01/03/2003 7:51:12 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
We did meet a few of our lessor goals but not the big one - killing the enemy that is hell bent on killing us. We failed that and we did so intentionally.

I am not talking down the country any more than warning that we screwed up the first time we went to war with Sadam by letting him live. I said that that was a mistake at the time and I was right. If anything you are talking down the country by pretending that we won because it makes you feel better. That is the most dangerous thing we can do.


The facts do not support that. In ten years it will be obvious that I was right just like it is obvious now that I was right about Sadam.

"Oh no ! There would have been more body bags ! we did the right thing by leting them go"
Thats what your post reads like. That is exactly what the enemy wants you to believe.

If they provoke us to the point that we need to go to war with them we can not let our enemies live. That is foolishly shortsighted. We had the ability and we didn't use it because of people like you.

" they could have attacked us again while we were sending troops to Afganistan , Oh my ! "

What a pussy.
38 posted on 01/03/2003 8:10:21 PM PST by stalin
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To: discostu
Sorry I called you a pussy. You were getting personal with me and I responded immaturely.

I forgot to respond to your Iraq comment.

We'll see what the admin does. It looks like I will be right again. I hope I'm not but Powell seems to be wining the argument in the administration. He wants to just remove Sadam and not occupy Iraq. That could be worse than doing nothing at all.

Half assed solutions might get Bush reelected but they don't don't solve them problem in the long run.
40 posted on 01/03/2003 8:17:26 PM PST by stalin
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