Colt Government Model .45 ACP no longer able to be sold in California

gunbroker.com ^ | 01/03/2003 | gunbroker.com

[RicocheT]

What recent change in California gun laws makes the standard Colt .45 ACP pistol illegal to be sold to individuals in Californa? To gun owners, this is like saying white bread is no longer in the supermarkets.

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[RicocheT]

Slicing away the 2nd Amendment one law at a time.

[The Obstinate Insomniac]

bang

[Sender]

Maybe because it will accept mags bigger than 10 rounds? Or because it actually works well without any silly gadgets and techno-widgets? Or because it lasts forever to be handed down to the next generation?

[Frohickey]

The Colt Govt Model 45ACP is not on the approved for sale list because it was automatically delisted. Our enlightened elected officials that only care for our own safety has deemed that gun safety features that allow it to not fire if the gun is inadvertently dropped on a concrete floor is perishable and must be subject to constant recertification and retesting. Nothing but the very best in government inspections to ensure the safety of the sheep.... er... citizens of the great state of California!!!

[Restore]

Colt decided not comply with the Kalifornia government's requirement that all handguns to be sold in the state under go an extensive and utterly worthless test before they are certified as "safe".

[Argus]

With enlightened laws like these, California will soon rival the low crime rate of England. (sarcasm/off)

[Fyscat]

Look up Australia's crime rate after they abolished hand guns

[eyes_only]

I believe the term the use is "not un-safe". They'll never designate a pistol as safe. Sorta like doubleunplus good(1984 EngSoc)...

[eyes_only]

the=they

[Tijeras_Slim]

I believe that some of these test requirements led Kimber to change the firing pin block mechanism in the last year or so. Their 1911 models that have the new mechanism all carry the II suffix in the catalog. Unless I'm mistaken Colt is no longer producing handguns, and this 1911 would not have this new mechanism.

[RicocheT]

Good London Times article on gun crime increase statistics:

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[Remedy]

Take this Fifth Circuit No. 99-10331 & Your Gun and this Impeaching Federal Judges:A Covenantal And Constitutional Response To Judicial Tyranny and impeach the judge(s).

[sheik yerbouty]

The Kaliban strikes again!

[Centurion2000]

The Kaliban strikes again!

Wasn't he in Clash of the Titans ?

[sheik yerbouty]

Don't know. Was he an ET looking piece of shi'ite named Gray Doofus?

[toddst]

Unless I'm mistaken Colt is no longer producing handguns, and this 1911 would not have this new mechanism.

You are mistaken. Go look on the Colt website. They definitely still produce handguns.

[Tijeras_Slim]

You are mistaken.

Would'nt be the first time. Thanks for the correction.

[hoosierskypilot]

Actually, in a manipulated drop test where the hammer was resting on a live round, the govt model Colt discharged. That's why everyone trained with the govt model knows you always carry in condition one: cocked and locked.

What's irritating about these politicians is that they infer such handguns are inherently defective. They are not inherently defective. They function exactly as they are designed.

[Frohickey]

I believe that some of these test requirements led Kimber to change the firing pin block mechanism in the last year or so. Their 1911 models that have the new mechanism all carry the II suffix in the catalog. Unless I'm mistaken Colt is no longer producing handguns, and this 1911 would not have this new mechanism.

The new Kimbers have what is called as the 'Series II' safety, or the Schwartz safety. Here, the grip safety disengages a firing pin block, so in order to fire the gun, you need to fully depress the grip safety, and also pull the trigger.

There have been instances where a gun can have the grip safety partially depressed enough to allow the trigger to be pulled, releasing the hammer, but not enough to disengage the firing pin block. Thats a non-reliable gun, IMHO!

Colts, back in the 80s have what is called the 'Series 80' safety, AFAIK, its also a firing pin block, but its disengaged by the trigger. If the trigger is depressed, it allowed the hammer to fall, as well as disengaging the firing pin block.

Colt started producing handguns again, since it it was sold to private investors. I hear that Colt is going back to pre-Series 80, or the traditional safety that John Moses Browning put into the 1911, which is just a grip safety, and no firing pin block.

[boris]

"The Colt Govt Model 45ACP is not on the approved for sale list because it was automatically delisted."

It is good then that I have a 1991A1 all goodied-up and a Para Ord.

I want one of those "carry" packages but why bother because it is impossible to get a concealed permit in the People's Republic of California.

Just under the wire, I bought a Ruger .480 Super Red Hawk. Now my Basic Firearms Safety Certificate is no good and I refuse to give them a thumbprint for their new one.

As for demonstrating proficiency (another facet of this law), I suppose a gun safe full of shooting equipment, all well-used, does not suffice any longer.

I DID lust after one of those Beretta Neos models, but I guess I'll just have to satisfy myself launching .480s down the range.

--Boris