Judge upholds death sentence in van Dam killing

CNN ^ | 1/1/03 | CNN

[Jaded]

Thanks.

[cyncooper]

I suppose, since the hearing is about unsealing documents, they are holding it in closed session in case the discussion involves items the judge ultimately rules will remain sealed?

[Freedom2specul8]

I wonder how it would violate his rights if the defense argument is correct. I'll ping amore..maybe she would know if it could effect his appeal..

[Freedom2specul8]

You're welcome..

[Amore]

Oh, I don't know. Assuming he made incriminating statements, I guess he'd argue that even though the California Supreme Court would disregard such evidence since it was not a part of the trial, it would still affect them.

Other than that, I think it falls into the usual defense attorney argument of: Such items or evidence violate my client's rights because they show he's guilty!

[EllaMinnow]

The hearing has been over for a while. By now Dave is on his way to San Quentin, dressed in a green jumpsuit.

[UCANSEE2]

I don't know why you insist on posting FACTS, when a majority of the population of the U.S. is more interested in "Unidentified sources".

Just like most people, I was misled by the media in the Jon Benet Ramsey case. We were not allowed to hear about the evidence that didn't support the contention that the Ramseys did it. The Prosecutor in the case had an injunction ordered that not only would not allow any evidence of the real killer, but ordered the evidence to be destroyed. The key investigator in the case resigned his job because of it. I am not surprised so many are taken in by this crap in the Danielle case. Today is the day that 'damning evidence' is supposed to be released. Well, I am still waiting. Has anyone heard or seen any yet? I am open to any new information, as I want the real killer behind bars. If it is DW, that is good. If not, we need to know.

[UCANSEE2]

Cherokee Young was NOT a complete stranger.She was a good friend of GARY. She was knew Westerfield.

You need to work on your information. According to BRENDA, she didn't know Westerfield. Are you saying she is lying ?

[UCANSEE2]

come on kim. This is no time to go off the deep end. SissyJane is mis-informed and made statements that cannot be backed up. DEMSUX called her on it as I did. You really wish to back up her statements?

[cyncooper]

The hearing has been over for a while.

So we await the release of whatever is unsealed...

[UCANSEE2]

These are the things that bother me. Why didn't Feldman allow DW to testify in his own behalf? (most times lawyers don't want you to.)

Why doesn't Feldman address the things like the plea bargain?

It sure makes me wonder about Feldman. If there are legal restrictions, that I can accept.

The longer this all continues, the muddier it gets. Whether DW is guilty or not-guilty of the crime, the way it has been handled makes no sense to me. Have you heard anything of the 'damning evidence' that was supposed to be released today. It would be nice to have a clear picture, one way or another.

[cyncooper]

Don't look now, but facts are being twisted into unrecognizable shapes and then others are being informed that they are presenting misinformation, when it is the accuser who has a fact deficit.

[UCANSEE2]

, nor would there be any DW fan sites on the net.

Are there really DW FAN SITES ? If you are saying that any sites that deal with discussing information about DW's guilt or non-guilt are FAN SITES ?

By saying this, you imply that anyone that believes DW may not be the guilty party is fanatically obsessed with DW the person and his activities. If you believe this, then anyone that supports Brenda and Damon is fanatically obsessed with Brenda/Damon and their activities. So, methinks your statement is about as crazy as the many statements by others that you ridicule.

You are better than that.

[Jaded]

It's the Left Coast. What did you expect?

[demsux]

If you believe this, then anyone that supports Brenda and Damon is fanatically obsessed with Brenda/Damon and their activities.

GREAT point, Ucan...I rose to the bait when one of the "swingers" said that I was "bad mouthing" Danielle and that I was a "fan" of Westerfield...nothing could have been further from the truth, however it really stuck in my craw.

I don't know of any Westerfield "fans" here, but I do know some people who question the verdict.

[cyncooper]

I rose to the bait when one of the "swingers" said

Fascinating.

Who are "the swingers" and what are the facts to back up such a label?

[demsux]

Use your imagination

[cyncooper]

Well, you are insulting perfectly nice and respectable people--after complaining about being called a Westerfield fan.

An apology is in order, but I won't hold my breath.

[demsux]

perfectly nice

HAH

[UCANSEE2]

Has anyone heard anything about the INFORMATION that Judge Mudd said would be released today ???????