[krb]

I read the one from Russ, and your, "not rape per se" comment

Ok, and what was I saying was "not rape per se" ?

[Bella_Bru]

You were implying (at least the way I read it) that it is not rape unless she was pulled off the street in broad daylight. "Not rape per se" in my book means, "We do not consider men who cannot understand 'no'" to be rapists.