China Behind North Korea in Nuclear Flap

Muzi News | 01.02.02

[nonliberal]

From the "No S--t, Sherlock" file.

[wretchard]

Kim Jong Il is blackmailing both his patron China, and his enemies. With starving crowds poised on the Chinese border and nuclear weapons aimed at Japan, Kim says, 'fear me, feed me, love me'. It's worked before so he reasons it will work again.

After all, he has the ultimate trump card, nuclear weapons. He has two US brigades positioned conveniently under the muzzles of his artillery. He has the metropolis of Seoul under the same guns. 'Fear me, feed me, love me'.

But the Chinese are passing up a golden opportunity to establish themselves as the premier arbiter on the Korean peninsula by failing to lean on Kim Jong Il. They were Seoul's alternative to the American way. Now where will Seoul turn, but back to Washington?

In the latest developments, the US is hosting a diplomatic meeting to discuss developments on the Korean penninsula. It's called taking the rebound.

[Steel Wolf]

"Hey Kim, don't worry, buddy. We're behind you all the way. "

"... make that waaaay behind you."

Anyone who thinks that China is going to fall on their sword for North Korea is sorely mistaken. For internal political reasons, China can't quite cut NK loose yet, but that day is coming. China's future lies in keeping Japan de-militarized, South Korea intact, and both helping pump up the Chinese economy. North Korea has nothing to offer, but a rational for U.S. troops to stay parked on the Chinese border.

Its safe to say that China will shed no tears for their 'fellow communists', nor offer any support where it counts.

[TigerLikesRooster]

RE #3

My guess is that China is more interested in what they can get from U.S. using this "crisis". China knows that current S. Korean gov will not turn on China aggressively even if China fails to defuse the situation promptly. It is taking its time to get the most out of it while the hapless S. Korean gov. is scrambling to get Chinese attention. Current S. Korean leadership does not know how to play a high stake poker game. It is unfortunate. But it is true. It only knows how to look good in front of international media. That is what Kim Dae-Jung is all about.

[Argus]

Does anyone believe that if the Chinese leadership wanted Kim Jong-Il dead, they couldn't find some North Korean comrades to do the job and take over, keeping the north a convenient and pliable ChiCom puppet state?

[Defiant]

a Chinese general, Fu Quanyou

Known to his friends as Fu-Q.

[Uncle Bill]

GOP Folds On ChinaGate - Alan Keyes

Bush Justice Department Obstructs Testimony of Chinagate Scandal Figure John Huang

Ashcroft Winding Down Justice Department Chinagate Probe

"The Bush administration has been "as bad, if not worse" than the Clinton administration when it comes to the transfer of sensitive technologies to the People's Republic of China (PRC)" - Insight Magazine

"The Bush administration has decided not to tell America exactly how much business the Chinese army does inside the United States. In a recent Freedom of Information response, the Commerce Department decided not to disclose what a Chinese air force front company bought from America." - By Charles Smith

Cover-up at the Bush Commerce Department - By Charles Smith

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NORTH KOREA: US agrees to fund power and heating (Bush sends 95 million to member of Axis of Evil!!)

US grants N Korea nuclear funds[President George W Bush waived the Framework's]

US grants N Korea nuclear funds

North Korea Threatens Nuclear Strike on U.S. - March 15, 2002

"Make no mistake about it, if you threaten us with weapons of mass destruction, if you threaten our allies and friends with weapons of mass destruction, we will do whatever it takes to protect our people," - George W. Bush

North Korea Says U.S. "Sworn Enemy" - April 4, 2002

North Korea, one of the three countries labelled an "axis of evil" by President George Bush, is a major exporter of ballistic missile technology to the Middle East, according to a new report released by the CIA.

"Axis of Evil" - North Korea, Iraq and Iran

North Korea's Best Pal: The U.S.?
"Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif , is even more direct.

"We are giving North Korea hundreds of millions of dollars in fuel and food while they are spending the same amount bolstering their military. If ever there was an insane policy, this is it."

Presidential front-runner George W. Bush has also voiced concerns about Clinton’s approach to North Korea.

"North Korea is a serious threat to American forces in Asia and to our important allies, Japan and the Republic of Korea," the Bush campaign told IBD. "Gov. Bush believes that the administration’s strategy toward North Korea has failed to secure important, long-term U.S. objectives on the Korean peninsula: to end

North Korea’s nuclear weapons program, to stop the proliferation of ballistic missile technology from Pyongyang, and to reduce the conventional military threat facing the Republic of Korea and U.S. troops stationed there."

The United States accused Iraq, "North Korea" and four other countries on Monday of building germ-warfare arsenals, and said it worried one of them might be "helping Osama bin Laden" in his quest for biological weapons.

"The CIA identified Russia, China and North Korea as "key suppliers" of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons materials and missile-delivery systems...North Korea exported "significant" ballistic missile goods to the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa during the first half of last year, the report said."

"The State Department's 1999 report stated that North Korea had links with Osama bin Laden."

Fatherly Advice to the President on North Korea

Carlyle's Way
"Shortly after George W. Bush was sworn in as president, he broke off talks with North Korea regarding long-range ballistic missiles, claiming there was no way to ensure North Korea would comply with any guidelines that were developed. The news came as a shock to South Korean officials, who had spent years negotiating with the North, assisted by the Clinton administration. By June, Mr. Bush had reopened negotiations with North Korea, but only at the urging of his own father. According to reports, the former president sent his son a memo persuasively arguing the need to work with the North Korean government. It was the first time the nation had seen the influence of the father on the son in office.

But what has been overlooked was Carlyle's business interest in Korea. The senior Bush had spearheaded the group's successful entrance into the South Korean market, paving the way for buyouts of Korea's KorAm Bank and Mercury, a telecommunications equipment company. For the business to be successful, stability between North and South Korea is critical.

"We're not looking for individuals of any particular religion or from any particular country."
FBI Director Robert Mueller - SOURCE.

[canuck_conservative]

"Making direct demands on North Korea is ``not China's style,''....."

Right. They reserve that tactic for Taiwan.

[Siobhan]

So here's the deal. China will let us take out North Korea and reunite it with the South if we let China waltz in and take Taiwan.

[Sabertooth]

[Siobhan]

Well done. Very well done.

[TigerLikesRooster]

RE #6

That is possibly what China will try if Kim Jong-Il push things too far. But it is a risky move. So China will go about it cautiously, taking its time, if it decides to do so.

In such case, China would prefer to have someone only beholden to China but not to the other players in the region. But anybody not rocking the boat too often could be better than Kim Jong-Il in the end. China may actually join hands with America and Russia to do this. It remains to be seen, in such a contingency, how deep China will reach into N. Korean elites to pull this off.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #10

It is sufficient for U.S. to merely declare unequivocally that U.S. won't interfere with China about the Taiwan problem under any circumstances. Then it is as good as done. Maybe that is what China wants. Who knows ?

It all hinges on how badly U.S. needs China to resolve Kim Jong-Il problem. Ironically, the more stinks N. Korea makes, grabbing international headlines, the more danger Taiwan will be in. Chen Sui-Bian must really hate Kim Jong-Il. Kim may be forcing Bush's hand to give up Taiwan in order to get to N. Korea. In the end, Kim gets nothing and digs his own grave. But he would drag Taiwan, an unrelated third party, with him.

[Enemy Of The State]

Heres my analysis on Korea.

The CHinese would love nothing more than to see Korea United. Their preference would be to have the North rule but I believe that they would settle for any unification because it would take away any legitimate need for the presence of US troops on the Peninsula. The CHinese would love nothing more than this since they seek to be the regional superpower and by decreasing the US presence in Korea would greatly reduce US influence and balance of power in the region. But thats just my two cents.

[Enemy Of The State]

See post #14

[Happy2BMe]

" Kim says, 'fear me, feed me, love me."

Ceasar fell .. in broad daylight . . at the hands of those he trusted most.

Kim Jong Il's dictatorial control isn't nearly as powerful as what Ceasar's was.

[maui_hawaii]

That is an excellent 2 cents.

[batter]

Bump! Excellent article and comments.

[ApesForEvolution]

American communist pigs sucking up to Asian communist pigs BTTT