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Judge rules student can't wear NRA shirt
Daily Progress Online (Charlottesville, VA)
| Dec 31, 2002
| KATE ANDREWS
Posted on 01/02/2003 8:46:10 AM PST by The Other Harry
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I guess I must have missed the portion of Constitutional Law 101 where it says that people must suffer "irreparable harm" in order to be entitled to any of the protections that are enumerated in the Bill of Rights. I'm sure the Founders intended that requirement to be there.
It is, at least, nice to see how the reporter got right to the heart of the matter: "School officials celebrated U.S. District Judge Norman K. Moon's decision, which poked holes in all of the plaintiffs' constitutional arguments."
Holes. Holes that were readily and no doubt very easily poked. In *all* of the plaintiffs' constitutional arguments. Every one.
The school officials must have really yucked it up afterwards. They probably had a party (at taxpayer expense, of course). When it comes to guns, how can anyone be so stupid as to think they have a constitutional right to free speech? Next thing you know, the ignorant bastards will be claiming that unborn babies are human beings, and that people have a right to privacy in their homes.
These people should all be riding buses.
What we need to do here, Gert, is to make some decisions about condoms. Which ones are the best, how to get the wrappers off with your teeth while in the dark, how to un-hook a brassiere with one hand, things like that. Education needs to be made more relevant.
Pass me another donut. Or is that doughnut? Hardy har. It has a whole in it two. Or is that to.
Who really gives a sh*t one way or the other? Ssshhh!
Hic!
Did you get the statement of your retirement benefits last week? Me and David got ours. We think their all f*cked up. Or is that there? The dental benefits were supposed to be $100,000 a year.
Hic!
Jesus. I lost track of time. It's nearly 3:00. I need to get to Target. I also need to get the oil changed on the BMW.
This also is nice, tight logic on the part of the reporter: "School Board attorney Mark Trank said the county ... may file for a summary judgment, which would end the matter without the judge's hearing the full case."
It is the filing of the motion itself that would "end the matter". A ruling on that motion would be a purely perfunctory step which could -- and probably should -- be dispensed with altogether. Makes sense to me.
One is given to wonder, however, how this same judge's opinion about the applicability of constitutional law in the public school system would come to bear -- or is that bare? -- if that same principal tacked up a copy of the Ten Commandments in the school hallway.
I'm willing to bet Judge Moon wouldn't think too much of that. I'm willing to bet a lot on that. I'd be willing to bet everything I have.
This seems reasonable on his part. Something like *that* would, after all, obviously involve irreparable harm to the children.
It would likely also interfere with their condom classes. No can do that one.
The real bottom line here, Gert, is that for the good of Western Civilization, homeschooling must be made illegal.
To: *bang_list
Bang!
To: The Other Harry
Yup. Get Jesus and the NRA out of our schools and all will be well.
If this kid's t-shirt pictured two sodomites copulating, the fed judge would have ruled it an "exercise covered by free speech," and permitted him to wear it.
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posted on
01/02/2003 8:51:05 AM PST
by
donozark
To: The Other Harry
So going to school in drag is protected by the first amendment, but not wearing a sports shooting T-shirt. Great.
To: The Other Harry
Seems to me that school officials should have the autority to set limits on the clothing of students in the school.
I think few of us would have issues with a school forbidding students from wearing revealing or sexually suggestive clothing.
I'd have no problem with a blanket ban on political messages in school.
But to see the very same people who are so defensive of the right of students to wear slogans supportive of every lunatic-fringe leftist cause, to argue that students do not have a right to wear slogans for other causes, is hypocritical at best.
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posted on
01/02/2003 8:53:54 AM PST
by
jdege
To: The Other Harry
The Newsomes would have been better advised to put their effort into seating new School Board members. Even a legal victory will not prevent these monsters from ruining further generations of children.
To: The Other Harry
Get your kids out of government schools.
To: The Other Harry
What the heck we've already banned plastic hand guns now why not T-Shirts. I mean those suckers might just hurt someone.
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posted on
01/02/2003 8:56:17 AM PST
by
Jzen
To: The Other Harry
This is a free speech ruling? </sarcam
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posted on
01/02/2003 8:56:37 AM PST
by
Salvation
To: The Other Harry
Oh the irony...Jack Jouett was a Revolutionary War hero who raced to Charlottesville (and Monticello) to warn of the Redcoats' approach, much as Paul Revere did in Boston. He was warning them so they could get their weapons and defend themselves against a tyrannical government.
To: All
Well, when constitutional arguments are ignored, perhaps court rulings should be as well.
Take the picture below and edit out the small lettering and then silkscreen it on a t-shirt. When the kid wears it to school, they can whine and complain all they want - it's not the logo of the National Rifle Association. When the school tries to enforce the court order, they'll get egg on their faces, courtesy of the National Recovery Act eagle.
To: The Other Harry
Next it will be a NRA bumper sticker on the car in the school parking lot that will be banned. Then bumper stickers will be banned. Or the wearing of Fellowship of Christian Athletes T shirts will be banned, but not Eminem or Ozzy t shirts or gay pride rainbow shirts. This is not just an attack on the NRA, but freedom of speech in general.
The judges head is full of holes, not the Constitution.
To: All; Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
I wear a NRA shirt occasionally to work in a union shop, it just has the NRA initials on it. I'm still waiting for some idiot to make a stink of it and run to managment. My game plan is to let everyone rant for as long as they want before pulling the rug out from under them.
As a member of the RPCNA, our lobbying orginization is called the National Reform Association, NRA. I figure on pulling out some documentation referring to RPCNA and National Reform Association and starting to talk about religious intolerance and discrimination. If I work it right I should be able to have more fun with that than I've had in a long time.
Semper Fi
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:07:50 AM PST
by
dd5339
To: The Other Harry
i`m going to renew my nra membership today
To: The Other Harry
Oh the irony...Jack Jouett was a Revolutionary War hero who raced to Charlottesville (and Monticello) to warn of the Redcoats' approach, much as Paul Revere did in Boston. He was warning them so they could get their weapons and defend themselves against a tyrannical government
shhh....! if they figure this out they will be changing the name of the school to the malcom x learning center or the Karl Marx institute for lower learning.
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:23:21 AM PST
by
arly
To: dd5339
I thought "NRA" stood for the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933 (created by FDR)...
The NRA of 1933 actually deals with pay issues and unions!
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:37:55 AM PST
by
2banana
To: The Other Harry
Judge rules student can't wear NRA shirt
I guess that not being a lawyer means I''m just a simpleton.
I still can't figure out how a governmentally-supported judge can censor a
student in a governmentally-supported school for peaceably (even silently)
expressing via his First Amendment rights his support for the Second Amendment.
Time to impeach a stupid judge...
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:39:35 AM PST
by
VOA
To: donozark
If this kid's t-shirt pictured two sodomites ACLU Liars copulating, the fed
judge would have ruled it an "exercise covered by free speech," and permitted him to wear it.
To: The Other Harry
School officials celebrated U.S. District Judge Norman K. Moon's decision, which poked holes
in all of the plaintiffs' constitutional arguments.
This judge must be a "closeted" home schooling advocate.
Just like I suspect that the judge who made the ruling about the "under G-d" phrase
a few months ago, must have made his decision in order to wake up the public.
At least in a sane world, those would be the rational explanation for these sorts of
judicial insanty...
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:43:15 AM PST
by
VOA
To: The Other Harry
bump
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:45:07 AM PST
by
Jael
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