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The GOP, Party of Cowards
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| 12/23/2003
| Lee R. Shelton IV
Posted on 01/02/2003 6:12:39 AM PST by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac
By the way, if he isn't fit to be Majority Leader, what makes him fit to be in the Senate at all?Winning the vote of the people of the State of Mississippi, for one...
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posted on
01/02/2003 8:59:59 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: Luis Gonzalez
Frist better bring it up since President Bush said he would sign the ban on PB Abortion..........
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:00:25 AM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: dirtboy; cynicom
I guess they were just mad at me for bringing a knife to a knife fight... All personal attacks are equal. However some persoanl attacks are more equal then others.
Next time, in this thread, use the insult word, "coward". It would make cynicom feel better.
To: cynicom
Personally - I think Lott should have been gone a long time ago - I was so thorougly disgusted with him when he denied the house managers the ability to put on a fair trial in Clinton's impeachment.
To: TLBSHOW
Thank goodness we do question the gop as we stopped tips in its tracks! Uh, TLBSHOW, it was a GOP representative who inserted the language into the Homeland Security Act that killed TIPS. That was more of a matter of what Ashcroft and Justice were doing, not the entire GOP.
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:01:44 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: AnalogReigns
Thank you for putting up an intelligent overview of the Lott affair. You're absolutely correct about the view of many mainstream and paleo-conservatives: Lott wasn't worth defending. My big concern now has to do with the Bush administration's position in the University of MI case in front of the Supreme Court and getting back to the idea of a color-blind society in terms of equal treatment under the law.
I am very disturbed by Frist's 12/27 meeting with one of the most noxious black racists in the country, Al Sharpton. Why on earth would any conservative give a rip about what Al Sharpton thinks? Sharpton should be attacked for his unending stream of race-baiting, riot-inciting words and actions instead of given legitimacy. I hope I am wrong, but something smells really rotten here. If the Bush-Rove-Frist leadership panders to criminals like Sharpton, they risk losing a large portion of their conservative base.
To: sheltonmac
I remember when KKK Byrd was senate majority leader. Not a peep from the president, or the senate, or the democrats, or from the republicans. One has to wonder what stoked these fires of righteous indignation.
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:02:04 AM PST
by
cynicom
To: Luis Gonzalez
Old Lott must have been quite a politically active 7 year old at the time Thurmond made that comment...
To: TLBSHOW
..then you best label Bob Barr and many other conservatives as well in your broad stroke of the brush.......... So you are saying that Anyone that questions the gop caving in is wacky? Bob Barr is a member of the ACLU.
To: dirtboy
Tell the truth - you have a book of quotes somewhere, don't you?
To: Luis Gonzalez
Sorry Luis doesn't fly. Lott was ousted for one reason only, offending those of the NAALCP and other racist organizations for making a non committal statement about a great statesmen that, as has been pointed out, could have meant many things.
Does that mean Lott should have stayed in the position before this happened? Of course not. His stance changed so often one would think he was a liberal. However to throw him to the multicultural wolves as a way to get him out of that seat was a mistake that conservatives will be paying for for years
To: M. Peach
Tell the truth - you have a book of quotes somewhere, don't you?I just make them up as I go along, and hope no one notices the really stupid ones...
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:04:37 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: billbears
Sorry Luis doesn't fly. Lott was ousted for one reason only, offending those of the NAALCP and other racist organizations for making a non committal statement about a great statesmen that, as has been pointed out, could have meant many things. Lott was ousted after he began sucking-up to the NAALCP.
To: dirtboy
a conservative member of the GOP....
not a coward one.....
Before Dick Armey, a vigilant Republican House leader, stopped for now Operation TIPS, New York Daily News columnist Zev Chafets warned us, in his July 17 column, what the return of "Big Brother"
could mean as our Constitution was being amended without consultation by Congress and without the vote of the citizenry.
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020729-91234329.htm
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:06:07 AM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: sheltonmac
Reacting to the verbal barrage from the left, the neo-cons scattered. No one even bothered to mention the possibility that Lott was simply acknowledging the distinguished political career of his 100-year-old colleague. Nobody proposed that when the senator from Mississippi implied that we would be better off had Strom Thurmond been elected president in 1948, he was referring to some of the more noble causes Thurmond stood for, like states' rights and a less-intrusive federal government. Another flippin' idiot who doesn't get it.
For everyone who agrees with this imbecile, read this carefully: IF LOTT WAS SIMPLY "ACKNOWLEDGING THE DISTINGUISHED POLITICAL CAREER OF HIS 100-YEAR-OLD COLLEAGUE, HE SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. IF LOTT WAS REFERRING TO STATES' RIGHTS AND A LESS INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT, HE SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT.
WHAT HE SAID WAS THAT IF THURMOND WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT "WE WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THE PROBLEMS WE DO TODAY." NOW, GENIUS, WHAT "PROBLEM" IS THURMOND MOST FAMOUS FOR TRYING TO PREVENT? THAT'S RIGHT, BRAINIAC: THE "PROBLEM" OF INTEGRATION!
LOTT DIDN'T HAVE A SATISFACTORY ANSWER FOR WHAT THE "PROBLEMS" WERE, AND EVEN IF HE DID, HE WOULD HAVE STILL HAD TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT HE SAID HIS STATE WAS PROUD TO HAVE VOTED FOR A PRE-CIVIL RIGHTS ACT SEGREGATIONIST!
No, the neo-cons were so desperate to prove that they could be just as racially sensitive as their slightly more liberal counterparts that Lott's political fate had already been sealed. He was the perfect fall guy, and his sacrifice was worth it if it meant keeping the GOP in power.
Oh, shut your stuff up! If Lott had remained Majority Leader, he would have been the equivalent of a firing range target for the left for the two years he's still got left -- which, if you haven't forgotten, is a Presidential election year!
You idiots who are in the business of ragging on "neo-cons" for being realistic and pragmatic don't seem to realize that the left is relying on gaffes like Lott's to EXPAND THEIR BASE -- something that is already forecast to happen just by means of illegal immigration and the percentage increase in non-whites. Even if you think that the future lies in rallying more white voters to the GOP by being intentionally provocative on racial issues, THAT will be a additional war cry for the Democrats! And on top of that, if your approach is taken, and the Dems accuse the GOP of shutting out minorities, THEY'LL BE RIGHT THIS TIME!
To: FreeReign
so, last I saw him he was on the front page of FR too!
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:07:40 AM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: sheltonmac
Lott lived by the 3-step dance, so it's appropriate that his leadership died by the 3-step dance. I must agree with the author, however, that the entire process was cowardly. Fortunately, the electorate has a very short memory. Mine, however, is longer. I'm all for seeing any senator who aided and abetted Bill Clinton remaining in office go down the road. Bye, bye, Trent.
To: TLBSHOW
a conservative member of the GOP.... not a coward one..... TLBSHOW nails the triple Lutz as he effortlessly spins his way to his new position. Even the French judge is impressed...
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:07:53 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the reminder. It astounds me there are people still defending Lott, and who are still sore about his replacement. It HAD to be done.
To: sheltonmac
If incompetency was the real issue here, Lott would have been gone long ago. By the way, if he isn't fit to be Majority Leader, what makes him fit to be in the Senate at all?
Maybe, maybe not as to being gone a long time ago. Unless you are perfect, sometimes it takes numerous mess ups till finally people get a gut full and you are put out.
Apparently the electors in Mississippi feel he is qualified to be their Senator and have so spoken. They didn't elect him majority leader.
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posted on
01/02/2003 9:09:27 AM PST
by
deport
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